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Coronavirus: Miles away from ordinary.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Juice, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Kubla Kahn

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    You mock now but wait until budget shortfalls start really putting the squeeze on state budgets. I don’t think California is going to float the other six in the pact with their massive, for now, rainy day fund. When they are facing drastic cuts to services and massive layoffs to state employees, they’ll come around mighty quick to slashing these ridiculous regulations.
     
  2. Aetius

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    I'd have more sympathy if the people protesting were the ones who were out of work or being put at risk in essential jobs without hazard pay. People risking spreading the disease because they can't go to the hair salon? Fuck 'em.
     
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    Honestly, as a guy who is close to losing a family business that we built from nothing... I'm frustrated in Michigan. I'm sympathetic to my landscaper friends because our governor insists on using an outdated CISA list when landscapers have been deemed safe and essential everywhere else. I feel for them even more than myself because realistically one guy out on a lawnmower in the yard isn't endangering anyone.

    I GET why I'm shut down. We pull in crowds of 10,000 people a day during the season. It's a zoo. I don't like it and I'm not happy about watching a lifetime of work go to shit, but I get it.

    I don't really understand why it's okay to drive 20 miles to the lake and kayak in it but it's a $1000 fine for driving your fishing boat 20 miles to the lake and putting in by yourself.

    Closing Walmarts Garden Center but letting True Value Hardware run a Garden Center just down the road seems a little senseless. Now hardware stores that have never sold plants are just adding tagged on garden centers to their stores and it's accomplishing absolutely nothing.

    I think it's the inconsistency that bothers people. It's the fact that her orders seem to come out in retaliation to the organizations that have lobbied for reasonable accommodations rather than being based on things that are actually protective.

    Yes, Michigan is far from the only state on a lock down, but some of our orders don't align with the other states that are on lock down either.

    Plus, we apparently have a whole lot more batshit crazy 'Bill Gates is the Anti-Christ' people in Michigan than I ever dreamed. If I spent another week answering the phone at work I'm going to have to start taking notes on the weirdest shit I hear.
     
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    I am also in Michigan, and my understanding of the only-essentials-at-big-box-stores bit of the executive order came as a direct response to the number of people who were going to Walmart/Home Depot/Lowe’s/etc and casually shopping for home improvement projects, or just hanging out because it was the only thing to do and the only place that was open. I agree that individual landscapers don’t pose a threat, but it’s really hard to make rules that stupid people won’t find loopholes in to make bad decisions. Mostly I just feel like Gretchen is getting a whole lot of shit she hasn’t earned.
     
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    California (and likely other states) have seen people heading up to their vacation/ski properties and overwhelming the resources of these small mountain towns. Likely spreading the disease as they go. It's why there's been a lot of restrictions on movement put in place as well.
     
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    That shit is virulent. I’m currently making ends meet by working for the cleaning company a friend operates. One that I financed a while back.

    I was deep cleaning at a bakery and the owner had come in to do some paperwork and answer messages. He had it all on speaker for convenience and I overheard a few good ones, which quickly turned into my whole crew stopping work to listen as this poor owner is being castigated by dumbfucks who think he’s an asshole for closing because COVID-19 is a <insert baseless and unprovable theory here>.

    We’re in fucking Canada where we’ve only seen 1000 deaths so far, but c’mon. What the hell do these dicknecks think is going on?
     
  8. Esian

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    According to conversations with several state senators it was a direct response to the individual paint stores, garden centers, flooring stores etc that got closed complaining about the imbalance created by closing them but allowing the large chain store competitors to still sell those same exact products (and anger over not getting the 70 day extension). Sometimes when they were right next door to each other. The lobbying to get some of those things opened, with the idea that it would actually space people out instead of Menard's parking lot being full beyond capacity every weekend was met with closing down those sections of the big stores too.

    Which, makes total sense to me to close them down. Keep people home and give them less reason to go out. But, if that was the case, why make an exception that you can still sell those exact products if you're an essential store but under 50,000 square feet? Now our local True Value and Ace are just filled beyond capacity and adding new departments instead.
     
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    Not at all an attack on you, but what is wrong with spending time doing home improvement projects while the country is shut down? I totally agree that hanging out there is dumb but if you can just put it in an online cart and then pick it up, I’m not sure I see how that is a problem. Some of the boating stuff I get, the likely hood of people gathering on sand bars or whatnot might be too high, but just going fishing or boating with the family shouldn’t be any worse than sitting at home drinking and beating your wife/husband/whatever.
     
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    Scroll down to the Candace Owens tweet. She's mad because a police officer told her and her husband to wear a face mask. And she's shopping everyday. Who the fuck shops everyday during a pandemic?
     
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    Candace Owens, because she sells-out every day.
     
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    My answer was cunts, but yours is ok too.
     
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    The problem isn’t the reasonable people. The problem is all of the idiots and unreasonable people. That is the whole point of the executive order. I wish she could just say “stay home unless you really need to get something and then don’t be an idiot and space yourself out and wear a mask, please and thank you” and that would be that, but clearly that’s not what is happening.
     
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    Yup, because it's assumed they will require higher levels of care, higher levels of PPE, treating those patients carries more risk and you may have to pay staff hazard pay or overtime. They are more expensive patients to treat.
     
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    WTF BRO!?!
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    This is me 100% right now. My fiance and I have a giant house we are renovating into a B&B. We have been paying contractors to do a lot of the work because we are both working full time and only get our two days off a week together to work on big scale projects. The contractors are on hold now because they don't want to be working in someone else's house, which is understandable, but we now have the time to do things on our own. With us being projected to have 3 months off together while getting reduced, but still some pay, we've been able to work on all of the projects we haven't been able to get to while working. We are taking advantage of the fact Home Depot/Tractor Supply/Agway is still open, they have curbside pick-up, and it gives us something to do besides sit inside and watch Netflix and go "WTF" to all the things people are saying on Twitter. Each time we go out, we wear a mask, only interact with the person who has pushed the cart out for us to verify our ID and then off we go.

    If we didn't have this available to us, we'd literally just be sitting on the government dole doing nothing. I also understand not everyone is going to be responsible with how they interact in public and would hate to see some of the avenues of relief during this time going away because some people aren't capable of being adults. I would probably start protesting against some of the measures which seemed to be ridiculously implemented just for shits and giggles.

    Our area does not have a lot of cases, I think it was 17 total with 1 death, but being in NY, you can't make county by county mandates because things would just turn into a shit show. However, if Walmart decided to close down their garden center in the entire state, but Agway, which is right next door to it is allowed to sell plants, it would start to appear as if you are just focusing on stupid shit instead of, I don't know, figuring out a way to increase testing in the state.
    I actually went into PetCo today because the clip on my dog's harness broke this morning and I needed something quick to replace it until an online order can arrive. They have someone standing up front telling you where to stand when you are ready to check out, and they are watching everyone they let into the store to make sure they are coming in for something specific and then heading right out. I was in there and they walked up to a guy who was in there apparently for more then 10 minutes and started to ask him what he needed and that he had to start finishing his shopping and leave the store.
     
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    You know those warning signs you sometimes see that you 100% know only exist because some idiot actually tried it once? Those measures are the pandemic version of those signs.
     
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    Does anyone else see this as a societal test that we're failing miserably?

    I saw a meme that said "Our grandfathers were called to war, we're being asked to sit on our asses"....and somehow, as a society, we're managing to fuck that up.

    There's over reaction, under reaction, and out right conflicting information. Then there's the political bullshit where decisions are made just because you don't like the other political party.

    As a society we've already failed the test. Just how badly, we'll find out .