Don’t forget. He also reassigned one of the top people working for the government who is instrumental in helping get a vaccine through. It’s almost like he wants to have the worst response possible.
Dr Rick Bright has retained lawyers and is alleging retaliation by the Administration: https://twitter.com/JDiamond1/status/1253056646802214912
Sigh. At least someone noticed. Yes those linked studies are the ones I was referring to for being poor examples to draw broad conclusions from. I had a conversation with a liberal friend of mine last night who posted this new VA study on facebook as a "ah-ha gotcha trump!" snark post. He apparently wasn't using any irony at all in the fact that a un-peer-reviewed study, while larger in scale than the others, wasn't big enough to draw definite conclusions on some of the assertions (as stated clearly in the couple of articles I read on it). Literally doing exactly what Trump did, again sans any irony to make a point, because the conclusion validated his feelings on this now ridiculous political football*. It just made me roll my eyes. Some super illuminating things about the whole covid situation. It's shaping up to be the biggest big data boondoggle ever, two confirmation bias on a societal level is staggering to behold, and three we are as far divided as the grand canyon and there ain't no end in sight. *Save me the "but he's the president and has a responsibility to know better" speech it's not the topic Im focused on here.
And now Trump is saying, live in his press conference, that Corona is not coming back. Or if it does, then it will be in small contained areas. He is completely uninformed and a fucking moron. The Dr. just walked out if frame when he was going off on this and wouldn’t agree with him.
Please tell me at minimum that there was an implied "after it finally goes away in the first place," seeing as we still have 2,000+ dying every day.
Nope. He then said they are doing the best testing in the world, better than any country. They are now "the King of ventilators". I had to get up and leave at that point, while the journalists were shouting "that's not true!", and he said, "you have to report your facts properly, not write it like fake news" and "we can revisit it later"
Net, Is there a discussion about keeping the Canadian economy closed down to encourage American States to follow our example? I feel like the moment that Ontario says "it's safe to open businesses back up" that American states will use that decision to open just in time to get a massive increase in infections. And I feel like us holding back on opening back up might save a lot of lives south of the border.
Nope, I don't believe that. I believe that a number of people on here recognized the fact that a moron who thinks he's a genius is throwing around medical advice that he knows nothing about, refuting his expert (Fauci), and are not at all surprised when it didn't work out and blew up in his face. And are calling out those who think "well, no harm no foul", because apparently now there is harm... and Trump's administration already bought 29 million doses of the shit for no reason. My gut says "follow the money". Again, the only way Trump remembers how to pronounce the name of the drug is if there's something in it for him.
Everyone is thinking the early opening is a death sentence for GA, etc. Ontario MSM were reporting "we've reached the peak", etc, without understanding that the peak only holds while the social distancing and stay at home stuff is in effect. "Remove the controls, it all comes back." They are also predicting that the second wave will be worse than the first one we've experienced. We are keeping the borders closed until we have the test results, and the results call for a loosening of the restrictions. They don't care what that timeline is, and until then, they are tightening up the border with the US. Cuomo has the right idea, and is very closely aligned with the thinking of Ford, and others. Ford is even going further and ramping up production of everything we need to be self-sufficient here in Ontario... PPE, ventilators, tests, etc. When the US stopped the shipment of masks, he said, "never again will we trust them, we will be sure we can look after ourselves", and he's following through on that promise. The general view is that a large number of the States in the US are not taking appropriate precautions, or major parts of their population aren't doing the right thing, and we are not trusting them to do the right thing, for as long as it takes to be safe, so we're looking after ourselves. But mark my words... when the restrictions are reduced/relaxed, there will be a spike in infections and in hospitalizations and in deaths. That is almost a certainty. What they're all hoping for is that the healthcare system is better prepared for that the second time around.
I thought 98% of people that get the 'rona fully recovered? Maybe this is factoring into some of Georgia's consideration to get back to normal.
Hell naw, we do what we want down here. Texas Governor Greg Abbott is reopening the state by the 27th.
Went to tractor supply today for some lawn equipment stuff. The employees there were wearing those sleeve gloves you wear to fist a cow. Sanitizing every cart before and after you used it, walking the aisles to remind people to keep a safe distance. Basically going above and beyond to handle everyone with kid gloves because.... they were basically children. I was one of the few in there wearing a mask. Of those who weren't, they were all elderly, or at least much older. Some had their kiddos and/or grandchildren with them. And it's allergy season, so coughing and sneezing was happening a lot. I've never used so much hand sanitizer once I got back in the truck. And on every part of it I touched. Fucking hell. I've never seen so many cars in that town except for when it was a parade or hot rod show.
There is no "fully recovered" from what I've heard. People that have to be hospitalized never mind incubated seem to have some long-lasting health issues as a result... permanent heart, lung, liver, kidney damage. As well, they're finding more and more deaths that were not initially attributed to COVID to be COVID. Again, those numbers are only going to go up. Still, you're at just under 50,000 deaths so far, and that's with the health care system that is not 100% full. Now that you have some healthcare workers infected or dead, the healthcare system has lower capacity. Opening up everything now will cause a huge spike, flooding hospitals, pushing the need past their capacity, and more people will die as a result of not getting healthcare rather than just "not beating" 'Rona. That's the whole point of flattening the curve... keep it below the max capacity of the healthcare system.
When he says his insistence was for the government to invest "billions of dollars...into safe and scientifically vetted solutions, and not in drugs, vaccines and other technologies that lack scientific merit," is he referring to the behavioral stuff (social distancing)? Because I thought that the crux of the Fauci/Brix thought process was that the social distancing should last until a vaccine is available. And he's making it sound like he considers a vaccine part of the "lacks merit" side, before saying he worked in the world of vaccines. Just curious about the wording... Anyway, I'll be totally honest. I really hope the majority of the shutdown thing ends soon. I'm not saying this to try and argue with anybody on any points - I understand the flattening of the curve, and all that. I'm not protesting in front of a capitol building or anything. And I'm extremely lucky to be working. Every day I'm at work, when I start getting tired and my brain thinks "man, I wish I was off tomorrow," or "I wish I was just chilling at home," I immediately toss that thinking aside and thank God that I'm working and earning a paycheck. But, my job requires people to have disposable income. I help process orders of clothing - fashion. Nothing we sell is necessary to survival, as long as it can be purchased cheaper somewhere else, which it can. And if the economy continues to be at a near standstill, those people who are currently ordering all these fashionable things might have to make do with Target and Walmart. And if that happens, our online sales start dropping, meaning the profits start tanking - which are already tanking because nearly 500 brick-and-mortar stores are closed nationwide. And then maybe they decide they can't afford the staff size that's currently essential, and I've only been there for five months and haven't risen yet past the level of "generalist," so I'd be first on the chopping block. And like has been said here, ultimately we're trying to ensure safety and security for "me and mine," so that's forefront. So I left Nashville and felt the weight of depression and anxiety lifted off me, and now it's back in viral form. I guess to sum up...this is like a therapy shitpost? I mean, if I could word it in a way that makes sense to me - It's possible to simultaneously think "I really don't want people to be in harms way and potentially die" and also "this situation cannot continue like this, we need to get the wheel turning again." And I know that a lot of people here understand that dichotomy. Nett's been working on it when he talks about basically figuring out with his work (paraphrasing) how many inevitable deaths are considered acceptable when things reopen. DND is telling us the figures from the models he's working with but also saying "dear sweet jesus the economy." I've run out of thoughts, I just had to get them off my chest. Happy Wednesday, TiB! Fight that Rona!
Has enough time passed for this to be true, though? Pneumonia can take 2 months to fully recover from. My parents both had it over Thanksgiving last year and didn’t feel normal again until early January.
I'm no doctor, and can't speak to it, but from what I'm hearing from the BC and Ontario health boards, there are a non-trivial number of people who "recovered" that appear to be having issues that will be permanent. Think scarring of lung tissue and heart damage that can't be repaired, that kind of thing. It's not just a case of removing some liquid from lungs and regaining lung capacity over time.
https://www.healthline.com/health-n...covid-19#COVID-19-might-affect-the-brain-stem There's also the potential nerve damage that seems to be happening, which results in the lack of taste or smell in some people...
If there's the potential for any kind of nerve damage, color me a bit concerned. I'm a few months shy of 13 years removed from brain surgery, in which no tissue was cut or removed, and I still have fairly significant lasting side-effects. Obviously brain /=/ lungs, but there's still so much about this we don't know, and in general there's so much about the way the body operates that we don't know. Medicine moves fast and we're light years away from where we were even a few years ago; the way I had the surgery done back then is like moving a car with your feet Flintstones style by today's standards. But what if it does impact the heart, or the nervous system, or do something to the brain stem or other goings on up there? We haven't seen "recovered" patients for even a few months, never mind years or decades. I was told back then that my hearing would return to "normal" within 2-3 years max. 13 years later, it's still completely fucked. My son might be calling my name from 2 feet away on my left side and I turn to my right thinking he's 20 feet off in another room. Just an example. We simply don't know. We might tell people that they're gonna have XYZ after recovery because that's what doctors genuinely think based upon the evidence they've seen. But the amount of evidence is very, very small. They're not wrong now even though they might be wrong in hindsight. They just don't know enough right now. We're trying to react to something as fast as we're learning about it. My doctors were "wrong" in hindsight about my recovery, and they had decades of examples of that exact type of surgery. What happens when they only have a few weeks of examples?
ok that changes things. I was hoping you weren't talking about that with the sense of smell and taste, even though I know that's where it is conducted from, for lack of a better word. I guess I was afraid if I typed it that it would be true. My brain tumor was two millimetres from my brain stem. A good friend and co-worker of mine, her husband died a few years prior to my surgery because of a tumor that was in the exact same place. That shit is absolutely terrifying. Anything that impacts the brain stem stops me in my tracks.