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Coronavirus: Miles away from ordinary.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Juice, Jan 28, 2020.

  1. Dcc001

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    I’m not Nett, but unless someone on this board lives west of Christina St, no one is closer geographically to the US than I am.

    This will surprise most - it surprised me and pretty much everyone I know - but our premiere, Doug Ford*, has been hands down amazing. Level-headed, no bullshit, decisive. I actually believe that he’ll roll out an appropriate restart and if any unanticipated shenanigans happen, he’ll respond accordingly. One can only hope the US follows suit.

    *Yes, brother to crack smoking Chris Farley mayor Rob Ford, RIP.
     
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    Trump says he doesn’t even know who the fuck he is. Jesus Christ, they should play “Entrance Of The Gladiators” every time he walks in and out of a press conference.

    “Some out there are rooting for this drug to fail while President Trump offers a message of hope.”

    That works every time. You simply have to sit there and hope for it to work.
     
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    I just spoke to my girlfriend, who happens to be a doctor (A forensic pathologist to be exact) with Lupus. She explained hydroxychloroquine to me a bit (Since thats what she's taking for Lupus.)

    Forgive me if I get a bit of this wrong since science was never one of my strong points. But she said it's an immuno suppressant that needs to build up in the system over time....think antibiotic. A couple of doses over a few days isn't going to do diddly squat. It took several months for her to notice a difference after it was initially prescribed for her, and now she's going to need to take it for the rest of her life.

    From what she explained to me, it seems like it might be effective against the 'Rona, but only if you've been taking it for several months and have your system inundated with it. A few days of dosing with it isn't going to do shit to combat it.
     
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    I'm right there with you. I'm collecting unemployment and with the extra $600 a week, it's a pay raise. But fuck that. I'll gladly take a pay cut to go back to work, earn my money, and know that I still have a job when this is all over.

    My job is in the medical field, so it's not largely dependent on people's disposable income, but I'm still concerned my job will still be there when this all clears up.

    I appreciate the extra $600 a week, but it's not like I need it....I'm already collecting the maximum. I'm just concerned it's going to do more harm then good for low income earners. Why would they go back to work at $10 an hour when they're collecting a check for $15 an hour on top of their unemployment entitlement?

    I don't have a crystal ball, but it appears to me this is going to get much uglier when the stimulus money gets cut off.

    I just want to go back to work, I'm going bug fuck insane doing nothing.
     
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    I'm not sure what happened on my end here, but I'm not getting that additional $600 per week. I wonder if Texas is different with the process.
     
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    Wow... this is the mayor of Las Vegas.

     
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    It's a national thing, I have no idea how different states are implementing it.
     
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    @toytoy88 I do believe you be fucked. (referring to the LV mayor interview)
     
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    Yeah, everyone I know who hated the fact he got elected are beyond impressed with how well he's handling this.

    Can you imagine Wynne dealing with this crap?

    We'd be dead.
     
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    An important point that is hinted at by Cooper but isn't really explicitly said is that the Las Vegas Strip is not actually inside the city of Las Vegas, and therefore the mayor has no authority over, or responsibility for, it.
     
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    She is a fucking moron who voluntarily went on air to argue with Anderson Cooper and offered to have her entire city be a control group for a mass experiment.

    I can't stop watching that interview.

    She probably thought she won that interview.
     
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    I didn't bail out of there just for shits and giggles.
     
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    What a blathering and dizzy busybody. Did she blow Sheldon Adelson to get this job?

    ...oh, no. She blew the last mayor, her husband the clown mob lawyer. Obviously the most qualified person to take over a city is the spouse of the person who used to run it. It’s kind of like “House Of Cards” if strong autism were thrown into the mix.
     
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    Welcome to the state of the Trump sessions:

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    We’re all gonna die.
     
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    So Australia at the moment seems to, despite being late to enact the shutdown, handled the crisis quite well. We seem to have a handle on cases and States are looking at slowly relaxing restrictions but it's still looking like a good long time of social distancing. I get to go play Coronasitter for the next month checking on people in quarantine, apparently living in a five star hotel although it's hit and miss as to where we get sent.

    There are the same number of consipracy idiots here talking Bill Gates is the devil and vaccines are population control but for the most part after the initial kick in the arse people have been behaving.

    Keep fighting the good fight @Nettdata and @downndirty
     
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    Currently estimating (because that's what we're fucking reduced to) about 2.5m cases, and 50k dead due to COVID-19. A month ago we were at 43,667 confirmed cases and 552 dead. Those numbers are straight up incredible, especially given the painful measures we've taken. That's my entire home county dead, and a third of my home state infected. Even the confirmed case count and dead have increased 20X and 80x in a MONTH.

    We are entering a "whack-a-mole" phase of this. We apparently can't endure a national shutdown much past May, so each state will issue their own controls. It will be extremely chaotic: an outbreak in a pork plant in SD causes shortages nationwide and shutdowns in other states. This chaos will further the economic damage, simply from the uncertainty.

    Barring some wildly fortuitous innovation, we will simply be fighting this off and on for the next few months. I can't imagine this going away in less than 6 months, and I can imagine it continuing for more than 2 years. Each state has confirmed cases, and there are wide differences in the countermeasures they have, how well they adhere to them and how they are working. So we are looking at hundreds of different rates of growth and hopefully decline. We've gone from nationwide concern to "hot zone" without really addressing the issues inherent in that conversion (testing, rapid response, monitoring, etc.). In other words, from here out we are reactive, not proactive.

    For the next few months, you will see requirements for face masks, gloves, etc. I think the social distancing will remain where possible/appropriate. The remote work will remain high.

    When you do get out, it will be frustrating. Think Googling a place, driving over, and discovering it's not open. Standing in line to get into Lowe's to maintain distancing. If you go on vacation, half the things you want to do will be shut down. You'll see a lot of social shaming and bickering about hygiene, adherence to countermeasures, etc.

    Some businesses can't operate with distancing in place (airplanes, stadiums, dine-in restaurants), some will say fuck it and risk it, some won't. This puts the small businesses at a tremendous disadvantage. If you run a mom and pop store, you can't guarantee the safety of your staff. You also can't hire replacement staff as easily. You don't have a legion of lawyers to fight lawsuits that result from them getting sick (gotta pay those medical bills somehow). It's a brutal catch 22: it's too dangerous to re-open, but how long can you afford to stay closed? The Wal-Marts of the world will be fine, but the small businesses are going to have a hell of a time. Keep that in mind when you view the "re-open" protests and wonder who's funding them.

    We also just created the demand for 330 million masks and gloves by reopening before this is contained. Sure, some of it can be re-used and washed, but....there will be an IMMENSE increase in the volume of garbage produced.
     
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    Wasn't an earlier model predicting over a million dead? What caused the dramatic decrease in that prediction? Assuming its partly due to the supply chain changes in equipment production, etc., but I'm curious as to what is driving that.
     
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    No, we estimate that this has ALREADY killed 50k, and correspondingly has 2.5m active cases. We are forced to estimate because so many issues with the data/reporting. So like numbers already on the board: 2.5m cases and 50k deaths.

    We're seeing 2-3k per day confirmed dead, and that's still the most reliable data we have, but we know it's incomplete.

    The projections at this point are holding at around 1m dead and upwards of 100m cases. I've seen a few that are believable with 500-700k dead.