Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 I guess the wife doesn't know or care?? How about her husband? I hear they might like to know if their spouse is cheating on them. (In the event you are certain) I would get a new job if possible. They sound poisonous.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 That sounds a little familiar, mya. Probably the only thing I dislike about working in healthcare is that the majority of providers are women who can sometimes be terrible to each other and stir up shit. I worked in a clinic where somehow the 21 year old office manager ended up running the ship and started gunning for people. Everyone felt like getting on her bad side meant that you had a bull's eye on your forehead. She had our managing partner's ear and encouraged the firing of several people. I tried my best to not piss her off. My advice, for the little that it's worth, would be to let it blow over. Is this a pattern with her? Does she frequently try to make others look bad and place the blame on anyone other than herself? Do other nurses or NP's see what's going on? Someone else has to, or else they'll eventually figure it out. I don't think I'd speak to the doc about this one, but I'd start documenting her behavior. If it became a pattern, then I would speak up. If worse comes to worse you could get a new job. It's not like you're going to have much trouble finding something else. The sad thing is that I think shitty and toxic work situations are more common than people would like to believe.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 I don't really want to get a new job honestly, shit happens at every job, I am past the point in my life where I want to get involved in office gossip and politics. I just want to do my job, collect a paycheck, and go home and enjoy my life. Like I said earlier I can let all the rest of the stuff roll off of me pretty easily except when I feel like I am being made out to be an idiot for things that aren't my fault. I don't know if his wife or her husband knows. I don't really know any of the details other than what I just said, and I kind of wish I didn't even know that. I don't agree with it, obviously, but I know my outrage certainly isn't going to change things. It just needs to be a consideration in how I handle situations. I obviously wouldn't accuse the nurse of anything, but is it worth even pointing out that I wasn't at fault under the semblance of making it look like I am trying to figure out how to avoid something similar happening in the future?
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 What Pimptress said. I didn't once hear you speak of quality of work, your patients, workload, money, nothing like that. You talked about these people on your off day like my wife talks about Grey's Anatomy. Fuck that noise. I'm not saying that you'll find a totally drama free environment but if this dude avoids as you said and this other broad has an in like ignoring his marriage and kids whilst spreading her legs, you're always going to be at a disadvantage there. And for sure you don't want to be around for the undetonated ordinance that is his personal relationships. Sounds like some shit that you should avoid. If your pros (money, career advancement) can outweigh those negatives, stay. Equal or less, GTFO.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 What concerns me is the conversation you overheard, what if you start actually getting in trouble for this crap? Could it affect you getting a different job if it came to that?
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 Maybe you should just start sleeping with your boss. Problem solved! Kidding.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 What are your options? You confront them and stir up all that mess. You confront the boss and look like an asshole because there's just no way he's going to believe you over the woman he's nailing behind his wife's back (or won't do anything because he's a puss). You talk to your boss about your performance which is just fucking insulting. Being politic in this matter either makes you look guilty or conniving. The only way to go is to make sure you have irrefutable proof. I'm assuming some kind of paperwork or a conversation you remember verbatim. Being a dipshit, I would just go for the throat because it is unacceptable as a professional. Hopefully your resume backs up your side of the argument if it comes to switching jobs. It amazes me how people like this, unprofessional and catty and self aggrandizing at the expense of others, consistently make it into positions of authority. Or at least a position of influence with the boss. they are completely transparent to me, so how the fuck stupid are the people that hire them?
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 As far as the job goes, I think that that pros outweigh the cons. I don't think that they could pin anything on me that would adversely affect the rest of my career, and if I get fired, I guess I just go find another job. I honestly don't think that it would come to that though. I guess it just means checking my morals at the door by being around this sort of thing (there is also outright racism, homophobia, etc, which also gets under my skin). Because I feel like I can detach and go about my job 90% of the time and biting my tongue for the other 10%. I am usually pretty direct, but I think any fight at this point would be a losing one. Maybe I should just let it go, like Tx said, it will just blow over.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 No it won't. You didn't fight back. That type of person will continue to fill her imaginary ledger with notches against you. She'll continue to push you around, trying to take whatever she can. Something similar will happen again, and again. Maybe not to you, consistently, but to someone else in the office. The thing is, if you present your case, you make it worse, but only possibly ameliorate it. If you do nothing, it gets worse anyway for sure. Same thing happened with my manager. I tried playing nice and now I'm the dimwit despite being the senior employee. Never trust anyone with a gunt.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 Ugh, I should probably go to the gym and work out the frustrations. I guess I should just say something in the way of "hey, let's make sure this doesn't happen again, please let me know what I did wrong". Like I said, he hate hate hates confrontation so once I say something to him, he'll just scurry away like the rat he is turning out to be and it will never be mentioned again. But I guess I'll get it off my chest and if he takes the time to look into it, he'll know it wasn't me.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 You could let it blow over, but it doesn't mean they will forget "what you did". If the same shit happens again, in the same fashion, they may look to you. I personally would take a proactive approach at protecting yourself. Go through all the steps leading up to the fuck up that she created. When describing it to him, look as objective as possible in the whole thing. Yes, you are at a disadvantage because he's fucking her, and therefore its impossible for him to be unbiased. However, he may see that you are right and just do nothing about it, which is actually ok. Because as long as he knows you didn't do anything, you are in the clear. Fuck what she thinks. Or you could just slowly poison her with mercury.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 Yep, that is pretty much the exact scenario that I was envisioning. Because honestly, this is a business, and he is a business man. My work is billable and directly makes the practice (and therefore him) money, so I am sure that trumps his fucking her. Let's face it, if he gets married behind her back, that pretty much should show where she stands.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 I just looked at that book on amazon and on one of the reviews found this little tidbit "In some instances, developing indifference and emotional detachment may be the best way to survive in the long run while achieving small victories. In the end, small victories can lead to winning the war." I think that should exactly be my strategy
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 For you men that like Crossfit Women, you should turn ESPN now.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 Woo! Summer classes start Monday, can't...wait? I could, actually, but it's ok. Best part is that after two years of working on an Engineering degree I'm switching gears entirely. EMT-Basic by the end of the summer, then to nursing school. But, get this. The community college here in Albuquerque is cheap. Like $175 for 9 credit-hours cheap. Why did I not go here in the first place!?
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 Wow, these crossfit women are kind of beefy. This reminds me, I need to get to the gym. I can't decide if this is inspiring or makes me feel incredibly inadequate and intimidated as they knock out tons of non assisted pull ups
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 Found this page earlier: http://www.whileiwasdrunk.org/
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 Fuck having ethics. Fuck being a nice guy. Fucking fuck.
Re: Thursday Drunk Thread, 'Cause I Do What I Want! 5/17/12 As all the cool kids are saying "I know that feel bro". Sometimes I wish I could erase my ability to feel guilt, then life would be easier. On the other hand, I like being a nice person, even if it does hold me back. BEER!