depends what kinda home. If you live in a house with a yard, absolutely that .223 is gonna be your best choice assuming there aren't children around where concealability in a nightstand safe is an issue (this was and is mine, which is the reason my home defense gun is a pistol). There's a reason the .223/5.56 is a horrible brush gun -- it's so light that it gets thrown off trajectory in a hurry. You aren't worried about over-penetration with that round, at all. When you look at the US though, you have a lot of people living in rural areas where over-penetration is a non-issue regardless. I would also argue that pest control hunting is not a very specific case, since an absolute ton of people do it. Last I checked, the feral hog population in the US -- not including my in-laws -- was at 9 million and growing. Now, if you live in a condo or apartment with shared walls, something like the shockwave pushing birdshot is going to be a lot more effective and safer for home defense. And I would never under any circumstances recommend a .308 for home defense. Even if you live in the sticks with no one around, the guns are too heavy, loud, and usually too long.
You should never be shooting at anyone outside your home, unless they are pointing a gun at you or are trying to use some other weapon on you. That's a good way to go down for murder. I can't tell if you're serious with that remark or not.
wasn’t sure how serious that was so I ignored it. Even in castle doctrine states like where I am, thats still a horrible idea like you said. Not to mention just morally… who wants to kill people just for the sake of it? Sure, there’ve been trespassers — people thinking our creek was public access — on our place before who I’ve approached with my CCW CONCEALED just because you never know. But anything greater than that is a no good horrible idea. Never mind the flat retarded concept that is open carry
The open carry crowd are doing more to get gun control then any mass shooting. In the same way the the rolling coal crowd are doing more to get car modifications banned then any street racing club.
Also the same group as "swerves at cyclists and then claims it was a joke when they kill or maim some of them"
I used to be a road cyclist, and I was pretty good at it too. I would do 75-100 mile days, a few days in a row without a problem. I stopped because of shit like this. One day a car full of teenagers drove past me and threw their mcdonalds at me. Went up the road, circled back, and then threw an aquafina bottle filled with gravel, hitting me in the chest. I finished that ride and never took the bike out again. Funny enough it was the only time I ever got a police escort though, I guess technically. I rode up on another rider and warned him about the car. Turns out he was a member of the local PD training for a race. He had mace (smart imo) and a gun (not smart imo) as well has handcuffs (badass imo) in his jersey. We were headed the same general direction so we rode back together.
I got in what was basically a road rage incident with some teens a few months ago for something similar. They were harassing me at a red light, and I refused to go on green because I knew once we got up to speed their harassment was going to turn dangerous. I blocked them for a light cycle while yelling at them, then detoured to another route.
I am serious. I'm not suggesting anyone go looking for a fight, but sometimes a fight comes to you. When my dad was in the hospital, I stayed at the house. Around 10pm the night after he died I had just got home and hadn't turned on any lights yet. At night with the lights off, you can't see the house from the road. I watched a truck come to a stop down on the road and a moment later someone in the truck started shooting. Deer poaching had been a problem in the area, and they were likely shooting at some deer in the field by the road. As soon as I turned on the exterior lights they took off, but I will tell you, I had a rifle loaded and at low ready before I turned on the lights. When I was a kid dad worked nights. One night, someone banged on the door claiming someone was after them. My mom didn’t open the door, but called the police. I sat just inside the door on the steps with the shotgun while we waited for the police. They left long before the police arrived. So yea, in rural areas a semiauto might be preferred for home defense.
hopefully what people are seeing from all this is that one person's experiences /=/ everyone. You can't say something is "rare" or "very specific" only because it hasn't happened to you, or not in your area. I think a lot of people underestimate just how fucking massive the US actually is. My parents have a house in a very nice area in the Blue Ridge Mountains. Country Clubs, fancy restaurants, all that. But you drive 10 minutes outside of there, and it's exactly how you described. Now, if everywhere in the US was like where their house was, then maybe some of these laws they're trying to pass in DC would make sense. But drive a few miles out where there's no phone reception, cars on blocks and they light a fire under the bathtub in the front lawn to use as a hot tub, and all the sudden those laws getting passed would make it a bit more dangerous, not safer.
Sorry not bending to the will of psychos. They are psychological terrorist and your capitulation is letting them rule your life.
I firmly stand by both statements. The guy in the white truck was intent on doing harm to the other diver. If I were in that other driver's shoes, I'da shot the guy as soon as I thought I didn't have another choice. I think it was a pretty good case of self defense. I also ride around with a dash camera so it isn't just me saying I was in danger or I tried to get away, the guy didn't stop so I shot. You act like I didn't say I would do everything I possibly could to get away from the situation long before I was put in the position to shoot. Reread the whole post Gcdiaz said "guys riding over the hill", as in leaving. You're not in danger anymore, no reason to shoot.
I was referencing that scene in Seven Samurai where the bandits crest over the hill and ride down to attack. Famous setup, been copied since. Can't seem to find a video of it tho.
My life is fine dude, I'm not out there running errands like I'm afraid of getting shot. Some people need their CCW like my 6yr old needs his blankie.
That's not what was being referenced, but in any event I'm just ribbing you because you're very clear here on not shooting an unarmed adversary, but you disagreed with that same assessment in the other thread.
We have to stop with this argument about wall penetration. If a round will not penetrate a wall, it will not penetrate a human. All pistol rounds will penetrate multiple layers of drywall. You must know where you are shooting when you shoot, and determine whether it's safe to shoot and what the consequences of missing are. It's always best to hit your target. Lots of info at the links below, plus much more on the site: https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-1-the-original-box-o-truth.278/ https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-12-insulated-walls.308/ https://www.theboxotruth.com/threads/the-box-o-truth-14-rifles-shotguns-and-walls.310/
You mentioned giving up semi autos so psychos can’t buy them. Not sure where the ccw stuff comes in? We shouldn’t base our gun laws around the infinitesimal number of nuts that want to become famous for racking up a body count. Joe Biden mentioning all semiautomatic guns is just another sundowner moment for him. I do think people are right that the left would, and will, move on to them (see Progressive virtue signaler in chief in Canada). I vehemently disagree with that plan of action.
Yeah, it's tough to go into every detail when posting about all these situations. Especially when your just trying to add your perspective while taking time out a busy day. The guy in the truck was using his truck as a weapon. You have no way of knowing if he's got a gun on his backside, or a small knife as he's approaching your car. Believe me, if I just knew the guy was going to scream in face, I let him. If I knew he was just going to punch me once and leave me alone, I take it. Once someone starts beating you thru your open window, you don't know if they're going to stop before you die. How could you know? I said I'm taking all steps I can to apologize, de-escalate and remove myself from that situation. Especially, with my kid in the car. If everything I've done fails, I'm trapped and the guy reaches in my window, fire away. Why would he reach into my car, other than to cause me harm? I'm not some guy happily showing my gun if someone gets attitude. I just want to mind my own business, apologize if I've wronged someone and go on with life.