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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Juice

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    The point where Murdoch realizes he's become the emperor behind the National Enquirer, and he's batboy.

    If he weren't such a piece of shit, I'd almost feel sorry for him. He's trapped in a legacy of bullshit, surrounded by people who believe things he knows aren't real, and he can't ever speak the truth because it wouldn't be believed, he'd be outcast, and despite all his power and money...no one around him gives a shit what truth is anymore. What a plight: to die the king of bullshit, surrounded by people too stupid to know the difference between the lies you sell and the truth you never tell.
     
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    Why would somebody as old, unfeeling and rich as him even give a shit at all? It does not make any sense.

    just like Sheldon Addelson— just die already. You look and sound like absolute shit, why don’t you just let it go? You have no use for life anymore.
     
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    Put the hook in her, he did.

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    Aye, she doped up good and proper.
     
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    this might be the best analysis of the entire thing I've read. And on here, of all places. Someone remind my dumbass when all of this comes true.
     
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    While I understand why people would prefer Biden be younger, I'm not sure why people are acting like it's some huge differentiator in the upcoming election. The logic seems to be that if Biden dies, we could end up with a shitty President for part of the term, therefore we should elect a shitty President for the entire term?
     
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    Man, what is your fucking deal with posting hideous, disturbing images/ gifs?! First it's all the gay porn, now this shit?
    I don't want to see that fuckin' shit. I'm trying to enjoy a beer after work, not puke it back up.

    I've been saying since the 2020 primaries: I don't think Biden is going to serve the full term.

    Initially, I thought the DNC was going to push him for president, and then have their REAL, competent but unknown/ unpopular choice as the VP, then force Biden to step down shortly after, but then he came out with this statement:

    "I'm going to pick a woman of color... The worst one I can find.*" and that threw a wrench in their plans.

    I have a feeling he's going to step down for "health reasons," and we'll get Mrs. Affirmative Action, that way the Dems can say that they had the first "black" woman president.
    With that done, the Dems will primary her, and we'll probably get Newsome as the candidate. Who else is there?

    Mayor Pete? He's a fucking failure as a transportation secretary, just like all of the Biden administration's diversity hires. That guy can go suck a fat dick.
    Oh, wait...

    I think she might actually win against Trump, just because there are so many people who hate Trump, but I don't think she'll win against a more moderate candidate like Pence.

    *I think that's what he said. I wasn't there
     
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    I thought it was for more mental fuck ups? Something along the lines like the interviewer asked if the US would step in if China invaded Taiwan and Biden unequivocally said "Yes." The WH immediately ran it back the next morning.
     
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    That feels more like strategic ambiguity than a gaffe. We've clearly signaled we would intervene in a China/Taiwan war going back multiple administrations. We just tend to be cagey about it due to the one-China policy. Our official stance is literally "Taiwan is China, but Taiwan is our ally and we will fight China to defend Taiwan... which is China."

    This is the literal text from the US State department on Taiwan. Parse that shit if you dare.
     
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    Ah, 60 Minutes and the WH day-after statement made it seem like a bigger deal. My bad
     
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    Pence is in no way a moderate. He would love to install a theocracy in the U.S.
     
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    YOU know that. I know that.

    But there's lots of stupid fucking voters who will think " I don't want the Democrats and their stupid ideas*, and this Pence guy seems pretty sane. He's not one of those MAGA Republicans, after all. Besides, I don't like that Kamala woman. What kind of name is that, anyway?"

    Read @gamecocks signature line.

    *Believe me, the Dems have A LOT of stupid ideas/ plans.
     
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    The theocracy threat is increasingly a bigger part of the behind-the-scenes politics on the GOP side. It's wildly effective for organizing and fund-raising (I hear churches kind of innately do those things). The idea of a theocracy is something the GOP base largely has no issue with, except...like the abortion issue, when it actually takes a step forward, the GOP becomes a dog with a mouth full of car bumper. When the theocratic branch of the GOP secures some wins, it's a national loser, and if it wasn't for the stacked Supreme Court, much of them would be rolled back after a resource-intensive and brutal legal battle. The lawsuits emerging on the Roe-rollback are horrific and will up-fuck Florida, Texas and other states for years to come.

    Thus far, the democrats really don't have to put much forward in terms of policy. The horror of the GOP and Trump has made their job pretty easy. I think we're increasingly seeing the Jesus vs. the non-religious, and again the demographics skew against the Republicans, all else held equal. An American theocracy is a scary thought, but it's also something the founding fathers consciously designed against. The Dem's back of the house organization is also a disorganized shit show, and will probably remain so. There's just no mechanism to get those groups to fall in line, and the conservative elements usually have an advantage in terms of money or at least, fundraising.

    The Dems lack of forward momentum and policy initiatives stems from 3 things: donors/funding, an increasingly salted earth at the local/state level by the GOP in conjunction with a lack of interest in local/state elections (their donors largely only give a shit about the national elections, and the talent follows the money), and they have no real need to, beyond identity politics. The advantages piling up in the Dem's favor are making them lazy and complacent, and there's a host of lessons they didn't learn from 2016, and the wrong lessons they learned from 2020 make it worse.

    They win elections by clutching their pearls at bad shit happening to brown/gay/marginalized people, instead of dealing with the bad shit that happens to everyone. Their economic policies are laughable in futility or infeasibility, and anything that resembles a good idea gets choked to death by the donor class. The focus on identity politics in terms of candidates means there's a lot of long-serving Dems that don't fit a diversity hire profile and will never move forward. The Dems have no bench, and the GOP is at least demonstrating they can develop candidates once Trump is done.

    TLDR: The Democrats know how to govern poorly, and that's a tremendous advantage over the GOP who simply cannot govern.
     
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    Whoever wrote that fucked it up in the first sentence. Constitutional Conventions and Article 5 Conventions are not the same thing. The latter is for Amendments, the former is for throwing out the Constitution completely and implementing a new one.
     
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    "The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States, or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate."

    Multiple states have had constitutional conventions to make amendments to their constitutions. I'm not sure why a federal constitutional convention would be any different. It's wordplay IMO. I could be wrong.

    Yes, I know the first constitutional convention established the current U.S. constitution.