Adult Content Warning

This community may contain adult content that is not suitable for minors. By closing this dialog box or continuing to navigate this site, you certify that you are 18 years of age and consent to view adult content.

Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Nettdata

    Nettdata
    Expand Collapse
    Mr. Toast

    Reputation:
    3,014
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    26,893
    Up here it just means we want to keep the 'Mericans out... regardless of race.
     
  2. Nettdata

    Nettdata
    Expand Collapse
    Mr. Toast

    Reputation:
    3,014
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    26,893
  3. Nettdata

    Nettdata
    Expand Collapse
    Mr. Toast

    Reputation:
    3,014
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    26,893
    We've got our best teams on it...

    [​IMG]
     
  4. doomrider7

    doomrider7
    Expand Collapse
    Experienced Idiot

    Reputation:
    10
    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Messages:
    186
     
  5. NatCH

    NatCH
    Expand Collapse
    Emotionally Jaded

    Reputation:
    484
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    3,542
    Location:
    Absolute center of the continental US
    Guess I’ll have to find a coyote.

    Or a…moose, maybe you call them?
     
  6. doomrider7

    doomrider7
    Expand Collapse
    Experienced Idiot

    Reputation:
    10
    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Messages:
    186
  7. Nettdata

    Nettdata
    Expand Collapse
    Mr. Toast

    Reputation:
    3,014
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    26,893
  8. bewildered

    bewildered
    Expand Collapse
    Deeply satisfied pooper

    Reputation:
    1,332
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2009
    Messages:
    11,304
    I could type for awhile in some attempt to convey the disgust, disappointment, and depression all this shit happening at the federal level has me feeling. So let's wrap that in a bubble and go to my next cluster of feelings.

    Family: total disgust and disappointment towards a few key members. The audacity of a certain family member who worked over 30 years in the federal government and retired well, cheering on the tear down. Believing that all these civil servants are parasitic in nature but believing these billionaires are doing something nobel. For many reasons, relationship with family has been strained but I'm done. It's not even worth discussing because I have seen their beliefs written out with pride. I'm glad I live in Oregon.

    Community members: I do my best to be a shining light. I treat others well and generously, I am friendly, I offer help. I avoid talking politics but will express negativity to The Situation. I listen and try to understand their perspective in the hopes that when they question or raise an eyebrow, I'm there to solidify that feeling. I recognize that most people have busy lives and are not as dialed in on what's going on. Many people are shoehorned into D or R like it's a football game, and I'm not going to change that. But I'll hang about and be that little doubt and give a little more solidity to those feelings. For my Hispanic friends, I'm there for them.

    For myself, I try to prepare. Looks like we got an additional vehicle purchased just in time with these new tariffs being threatened. Did you know that the bird flu basically doesn't affect ducks? I'll be hatching out tons this spring. I try to focus on what I can control to keep from spinning out.
     
  9. SouthernIdiot

    SouthernIdiot
    Expand Collapse
    Emotionally Jaded

    Reputation:
    148
    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2017
    Messages:
    2,452
    Ducks are the "natural" hosts of avian influenza, so that makes sense from an evolutionary perspective. They can spread it, so you might want to use some type of PPE when you're around them.

    Edit: Ducks can get sick from Avian flu. They have more immunity than chickens or turkeys, but they aren't completely immune to it.
     
  10. bewildered

    bewildered
    Expand Collapse
    Deeply satisfied pooper

    Reputation:
    1,332
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2009
    Messages:
    11,304
    I'm kind of insulated against all the egg news since I raise my own and sell the excess, so when I heard that prices were stupid checked the Walmart app and an 18pk of shitty commercial chicken eggs was almost $9. So then, I started reading.

    True about your concern. Spread to humans is pretty rare, though. I'm not at the ppe level with them yet but if shit ramps up more I'll consider it. I use a half mask respirator when I clean out the coop but not usually to just enter it to collect eggs in the morning. I see migratory waterfowl regularly and read that there was a backyard farm with 50 hens that had to be culled in my county.... But no idea near what town. So it's definitely around.
     
  11. bewildered

    bewildered
    Expand Collapse
    Deeply satisfied pooper

    Reputation:
    1,332
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2009
    Messages:
    11,304
    Can you provide some links to sources?

    I'll admit I'm far from an expert on this topic. I just did some reading one day.

    From my understanding, they class these many strains into 2 groups, either low or high pathogenic strains.

    The low pathogenic strains can be caught by ducks but may not be noticed by the owner. Maybe poor feathers, or reduced egg production. The highly pathogenic strains will kill a chicken or turkey real quick and spread to all their friends. But ducks and waterfowl, domestic or wild, are basically immune. That disease could then pass along to the humans that tend them or the neighbors chickens. I think going from the ducks to us would be pretty low on the probability meter. The worst part of this are all the vectors it can spread by. It's spread by every part of the bird and can live in the soil for years. So much fun.
     
  12. SouthernIdiot

    SouthernIdiot
    Expand Collapse
    Emotionally Jaded

    Reputation:
    148
    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2017
    Messages:
    2,452
    The current strains circulating are highly pathogenic. Normally waterfowl show little to no symptoms from avian flu, but that's not the case with the strains currently circulating. Here is an old study from 2011 for reference.
    https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4635058/

    There have been some cullings on duck farms in the US.
    https://www.cidrap.umn.edu/avian-in...-identify-h5n9-avian-flu-california-duck-farm
     
  13. bewildered

    bewildered
    Expand Collapse
    Deeply satisfied pooper

    Reputation:
    1,332
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2009
    Messages:
    11,304
    @SouthernIdiot thanks for the links. I've got some more reading to do.
     
  14. doomrider7

    doomrider7
    Expand Collapse
    Experienced Idiot

    Reputation:
    10
    Joined:
    Jun 8, 2011
    Messages:
    186
  15. Nettdata

    Nettdata
    Expand Collapse
    Mr. Toast

    Reputation:
    3,014
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    26,893
  16. Nettdata

    Nettdata
    Expand Collapse
    Mr. Toast

    Reputation:
    3,014
    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2006
    Messages:
    26,893
    Official comms from the White House. I guess you guys have a king now. Congrats?

    [​IMG]
     
  17. NatCH

    NatCH
    Expand Collapse
    Emotionally Jaded

    Reputation:
    484
    Joined:
    Jan 10, 2012
    Messages:
    3,542
    Location:
    Absolute center of the continental US
    Yeah, the nationwide protests on Monday were being called “No Kings on Presidents Day,” so I think this is equal parts Trump using that as a comeback and “give someone enough rope”
     
  18. walt

    walt
    Expand Collapse
    Emotionally Jaded

    Reputation:
    476
    Joined:
    Oct 21, 2009
    Messages:
    2,445
    About 50 geese were found dead near here recently, attributed to avian influenza.

    As for preparation, really that’s all we can do at this point. The problem with our current situation is that there’s so many different easy things could go completely sideways.


     
  19. Aetius

    Aetius
    Expand Collapse
    Emotionally Jaded

    Reputation:
    842
    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    9,140
    This post has been edited for patriotic accuracy by JD Vance.
     
  20. bewildered

    bewildered
    Expand Collapse
    Deeply satisfied pooper

    Reputation:
    1,332
    Joined:
    Oct 26, 2009
    Messages:
    11,304
    Aw shit. I stand corrected.