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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. jdoogie

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    It's almost as if people have changed their opinion and/or narrative of him based on new information and actions that he's taken as opposed to just forming an opinion of the man and not being willing to change that opinion regardless of actual evidence...

    What a novel concept.
     
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    Fire Comey, and the only meeting on the schedule is with the Russian Foreign Minister:
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...2635de9b69b209cf2b7fb/?utm_term=.9d0a7e3500fa (scroll down).

    That can't be good.

    EDIT: The quote that piqued my interest:

    "A day after firing the FBI director overseeing the Russia probe, Trump has just one event on his public schedule today: An Oval Office meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov. “The sit-down between Trump and Lavrov, the first face-to-face contact the president has had with a senior official of the Russian government, will take place at 10:30 a.m. in the White House,” Philip Rucker and Karen DeYoung report. “It will be closed to the press. … Trump and Lavrov are … picking up on the conversation Trump had with Russian President Vladimir Putin via telephone on May 2. … Trump is expected to hold his first meeting with Putin in July, when both travel to Germany to a summit of the Group of 20 leading and developing world economies.”
     
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    More speculation on top of speculation. The CNN top story of learning of subpoenas just before comey's firing was showcased in a way that they wanted it to appear the two were connected. Though the subpoenas had been issued in the past few weeks. From watching the hearings and the non answering I'm just waiting for the full FBI report. Everything else has been political theater.
     
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    More speculation on top of speculation. The CNN top story of learning of subpoenas just before comey's firing was showcased in a way that they wanted it to appear the two were connected. Though the subpoenas had been issued in the past few weeks. From watching the hearings and the non answering I'm just waiting for the full FBI report. Everything else has been political theater.
     
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    Trump's stupid decisions aside, the fear mongering is really becoming absurd. Its being driven by the media's blind hatred and their inability to get over the election. Cutting through the bullshit, you have an inexperienced President that is just kind of fumbling his way through the job. Once indictments are issued by the DOJ or whomever replaces Comey, I'll start actually caring. But I'm finding it hard to give a shit when the media let all the equally if not more sketchy shit Eric Holder did slide.
     
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    I think Biden would have definitely beat Trump head to head if he ran in 2016. Whether he would have won the primaries who knows... in 2020 Biden will be 77 which is really pushing the age limit that is going to be acceptable to voters.

    We'll have to see how Trump shakes out by the end of his term, but I honestly think it's going to be hard for the democrats to put out another candidate that would lose to him. While I suppose it's possible I doubt I'll ever again in my lifetime see two candidate that were both so despised across the board. Both Trump and Hillary were setting record unfavorable ratings for their respective parties.

    That's where I'm at with the whole Russia thing too. It's not that I think collusion is impossible or that I trust Trump on faith, but despite the weekly, or at times daily 'new revelation' or freak out or what have you there's yet to be anything substantive. I want to see something with some meat on it before I join the howling chorus.

    It'll be interesting to see what happens with Flynn over the next few weeks though.
     
  7. Nettdata

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    I think a big part of it is some sort of feedback loop with their viewers... the viewers hate the other side, so the media feeds those flames, and in the process get more eyeballs which means more advertising dollars which means more of the same.

    Very little of it is respectable journalism... it's mostly wild and inflammatory speculation that is quickly glossed over later on if/when it's found out to be absurdly false.
     
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    Or they just wait for someone to tell them what they think.

     
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    The most baffling thing about Trump for me, which has nothing to do with ideology or partisan politics, is his need to engage in completely random micromanagement like this: http://thehill.com/policy/defense/3...mned-steam-catapults-on-new-aircraft-carriers

    There's at least a dozen levels of reporting between Trump and the people qualified to evaluate the engineering of aircraft launch systems; this shit shouldn't even reach his desk, much less be something he involves himself in and then publicly comments on.
     
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    What. The. Fuck.

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    Jesus Christ. So now he may have recorded his conversation with the former FBI Director? Its almost like hes deliberately trying to get impeached.
     
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    He might be. He has no shame. He could easily resign but that would make him feel and look weak. If he can play the martyr and go down like a "victim" of partisan democrats witch hunt, it would in some weird way let him save face. Resigning in disgrace is a bitch move.
     
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    I'm certainly not defending Trump, but the D.C. is a one-party consent zone. Why is that impeachable, if he did record it? Or, is threatening him over Twitter the crime?
     
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    Well claiming its a partisan witch hunt by the Democrats isnt entirely false, thats a huge part of it. They need to punish him for stealing it from Hillary. But all he has to do is take the high ground (which he has never done) and just do his job as normal. There are two sides of a very shitty coin here.

    If Trump makes it out of this whole Russia thing unscathed, he will be untouchable from legitimate criticism.
     
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    Apparently this NYT article is what Trump was responding to with that tweet.

    It makes a little more sense in that light, not good sense, but at least it sheds a little clarity.
     
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    Bullshit. I don't believe them, at all.
     
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    So if I have this right.... Trump lied about why Coney was fired and now wants an investigation into the voter fraud that didn't happen?

    It's been four months. You get him for four YEARS.
     
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    And one of the guys he hired to "investigate" this "voter fraud" is someone who has been successfully sued by the ACLU for voter suppression four times.
     
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    So the story of Trump casually leaking highly classified info to the Russians is going to get all the play, but bonus points for this one.

    Trump's bodyguard was photographed holding a file with a yellow sticky note. On that sticky note? The number to the direct line of the Secretary of Defense.

    Bonus story: back in the day one of the Bush daughters went onto Ellen. She called him up live just to prove that she still gets to talk to her dad regularly. It was sweet.

    Then a Swedish guy listened closely to the tones of the number pad and figured out the direct line to the president.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/blog...vate-cellphone-number/?utm_term=.a7d9ba383f0d