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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Revengeofthenerds

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    To what Nett said, he's gonna take the "easy" way out. He's gonna decide that this isn't for him (if he hasn't decided already), rally his troops, and parlay his support into a business endeavor. He won't take the impeachment process simply because his ego cannot take it. And honestly, I still believe to this day that he never wanted the Presidency, he just wanted the publicity and he fell ass backward into it.

    I'm just curious what the textbooks will say about trump. Is he a speedbump? Is he a joke? Is he even a footnote?
     
  2. Rush-O-Matic

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    Lol, the textbooks will say he was President of the United States, just like the rest of the statesmen, Harvard grads, great leaders or scoundrels that preceded him.
     
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    August 9th? Dude, you're crazy.

    Trump is more likely to get impeached than someone like Obama was, but odds are still against it happening. Look at all the shit Bush did and he never got kicked out of office.

    Also, your theory is based on things like "he never really wanted to be president" which is based on absolutely nothing whatsoever.

    You are taking a wishy washy left wing media way too seriously.

    If the democrats want to get rid of Trump they'll probably have to do it the old fashioned way... beat him in 2020. Trump could manage it... maybe, but it's pretty hard to get impeached. Unless you want to go all in on this Russia probe revealing everything CNN and MSNBC wish it did you don't have much reasoning behind this bet.
     
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    And they will still have to build a library after him. You know, a building containing books of knowledge. Some without pictures, even.
     
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    He's more of a Super Mall of America type... not a Library.
     
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    Build the mall!
     
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    Where are all the criticisms of Trump cozying up to Saudi Arabia?

    Weren't people VERY MAD about Clinton negotiating arms deals with them? Why no rage posts about Jared Kushner personally intervening to help knock down the price for them on the single biggest arms deal in U.S. history? (That's how they are billing it)
     
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    Bitch please.

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    It's called 4D chess. You build it before they even ask.
     
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    There are so many twists and tangles in these deals, that I certainly don't know enough to answer that question with facts. But the "where are they" or "why are they" questions (or no questions) probably stem from how the information is pitched by the media and White House.
    For Clinton, the angle was:
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/medea-benjamin/hillary-clinton-saudi-arabia_b_9374490.html

    But with Trump it's:
    http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/20/politics/us-saudi-business-deals/index.html
    I don't know if that's because a lot of that deal - and how there was anything for Kushner to step in on - was laid out by the previous administration anyway. It's not like US Contractors are suddenly building stuff for the Saudis this year.

    It's hard to get a clear picture, and always seems like people ask "wait, we like Nation X? I thought we didn't like them."
     
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    An idea that's been kicking around my head for a few weeks. Something I'm seeing from Trump supporters, both here and elsewhere, is a lack of understanding of how pissed off the rest of the country is. I keep seeing things framed as some variation of politics as usual, that the anger on the left is just a bad hangover from losing the election, that this is no different than Obama '08 or Bush '00. They're expecting things to settle down, for the anger to subside and for things to get back "to normal." That's not going to happen. People really aren't understanding just how badly they fucked up by electing Trump; how unforgivable an action it was, and how unwilling the rest of us are to even try to forgive it. It's somewhat amazing that it took something this extreme for the left to pull their head out of their ass and face the reality of how the right feels about them and what their priorities have been for the last three decades, but they are facing it now. Where we go from here, I don't know, but the ground has lurched under our feet, and the landscape is not what it was.
     
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    The right has never cared, that's not new. But I'm still seeing the right run the playbook they ran when the left did. When Kellyanne Conway whines that the media treatment of her is "sexist," she does it because she expects liberals to start navel gazing and muttering about how "we can disagree civilly but that doesn't excuse sexism..." and get derailed from rebutting her. Instead I'm seeing hippie liberal feminist types responding with "fuck off you wretched cunt." The right has always run a playbook of holding the left up to standards they have no intention of living up to themselves, and I'm seeing the left no longer acquiescing to being held up that way.
     
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    But they weren't. It was always a disingenuous ploy.
     
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    I understand, but it was never an honest accounting. Beyond that, the left is certainly fed up with the "when they go low, we go high" shit that has let the right hamstring them for years.
     
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    So calling people racists, misogynists, xenophobes, and talking like they are all mentally retarded rednecks is 'going high' now. Because that's what they've been doing the last ten years.

    I shudder to think what low looks like.
     
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    You need to watch less Youtube.
     
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    Or stop reading this thread apparently.

    I'm genuinely curious what election you watched because that was virtually all the left talked about. It's not a youtube limited phenomenon.
     
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    This is my point. The objections were always absurdly cherry-picked or specious. They find one anonymous person in a crowd holding up a "Rape Melania" sign and act like it holds equivalent representative value as the stated platform, legislative priorities, and statements and deeds of elected high officials on the other side.
     
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    I've read your political posts for over a year now, and I can safely say they boil down to little more than Don Quixote tilting at SJWs.
     
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    Yeah the Left never does that. Ever. If they are just now saying "fuck it" it is going to get a whole lot worse before it gets better.
     
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    It will