Yeah, I just roll my eyes at their bullshit anymore. I switched over to CNN last night and they were talking about Trump and that he'd said something about making a "New Deal" with the black community. Trump's first promise was a safe community. Cue CNN having an angry black man arguing that the racist Trump is implying that black communities aren't safe. I guess we're overacting to all these children and old people getting shot in drive by shootings. Thank God for CNN to set us straight.
Am I the only member of the middle class that hasn't been shafted in the last 8 years? My stocks are doing great. I make 3x what I did ten years ago. I own a home. My friends can get married. Most of the issues I face are of my own making and had little to do with government. Is this odd?
To whom? Couldn't people also think you like huge pieces of shit? Or that you hate Hillary? I don't think a vote for Trump (or Clinton) sends a clear message to anybody about anything. We have two crappy choices between those two. Voting for either simply sends a message that it's okay to settle between shit.
The FBI saying they're reopening a case against a presidential candidate shouldn't be announced? Really? I have no idea why they reopened the case, but I would presume it's probably something pretty substantial. Or maybe it really is nothing. I have no idea. But you think we shouldn't be informed that the FBI is investigating? How do you figure that?
Just speaking for myself - I said way back in the serious thread that Trump is an asshole, but Hillary is a useless asshole. His measures against corruption are important, and even though I don't know how much of it he can institute I'm glad there's a candidate talking about doing it, and actually seems sincere in making a stand against it. I lived overseas and got to know a lot of rich tycoons high up the chain in multinationals, studied economics in college, and have worked in business most of my adult life. I don't expect people with different educational backgrounds to have a clear understanding of it, but the current state of trade, our manufacturing, and the way the global market is operating is a serious threat to our economic livelihood in the long term. Trump is one of the few politicians I've seen that seems serious about tackling this problem. There's other reasons as well, but while I don't have a lot of faith in Trump, I have more than in the bullshit most our politicians are doing. I also disagree that electing an outsider like Trump, despised by the establishment on both sides doesn't send a clear message to Washington. What's already happened throughout this election should have sent that message, but it doesn't seem to be resonating whatsoever.
The way I see it is a vote for Hillary is saying I accept all the bullshit, scandals, pandering, deflecting, and everything else. A vote for Trump is at least saying to the Republican party that is abandoning him a clear "Fuck you too. Fix this bullshit." If Hillary wins we get at least 4 more years of the usual politics and the associated bullshit. If Trump wins we get 4 years of entertainment of both parties trying to figure out exactly how fucked up they are that he got elected and how to fix it.
No offense, but this is just more crazy shit that amounts to a delusional defense of Hillary. You care more about these silly contrived stances of time sensitive appropriate blah blah blah than you do her endless list of crimes. Maybe you're mad at the Russian hackers too. I mean, if it was the Russians. Hillary gets caught with more evidence of her crimes and disregard for the nation's law and security. FBI director publicly states there is an investigation. Fire the FBI director. Or at least punish him. How deep does your rabbit hole go?
Couldn't it also say to the the Republican Party that it's ok to keep supporting misogyny and racism in your candidates?
It's an interesting scenario. Here's what I would imagine happens: One, even if she was indicted there's no way a trial would occur and reach a verdict before Congress would have a chance to vote for impeachment. I would expect partisanship in such a vote, with the Republicans calling for immediate impeachment while the Democrats saying "wait for a conviction" before agreeing to impeach. If the GOP keeps the house and got a 2/3rds majority in the Senate it would be a moot point because they'd have enough votes to successfully impeach the president. However, lacking that 2/3rds Senate majority, there would need to be support from Democratic senators. If it did come to a "wait until a conviction" vote and she was successfully convicted, I don't know if she'd be able to pardon herself. It's really fucked up. I work for a health insurance company and we lost money last year, we're losing money this year, and we're almost certain to lose money next year. And we're still doing the best of all the health insurance companies that provide health insurance in Minnesota. The bottom line is that the people in the high-risk individual market pool are just too expensive to insure - there's no way to avoid losing money on that pool without raising rates to astronomical levels. The only silver lining is that particular pool only accounts for 5% of people in Minnesota, but those 5% are just completely fucked unless they can get out of the individual market. I'm in the same boat as you. I'm making about 80% more than I made 10 years ago, my stocks seem to be doing fine, and I also own my own home. I guess we're unicorns according to popular sentiment.
The real damage thus far has been done to blue collar workers. People with college educations are getting fucked on loans and rising tuition costs, but are doing ok overall. Even so, the middle class hasn't had any meaningful income growth over the last 20 years. Nearly all of it went to the upper class, and I'm pretty damn sure it's going to get worse moving forward. Life isn't so terrible for people like you and me who started out with advantages (and judging by the board demographic it looks like most posters on here had a middle class/upper middle class upbringing) but the wage gaps are ever moving in the wrong direction. We're investing more and more in service and it's not a problem that is going to be fixed by signing the TPP and moving more American companies offshore. We also can't pay off the debt if we have a tax policy for the wealthy that is all but 'pay them if you feel like it'.
Anybody else catch Comey's letter to FBI employees? Based on the public reaction, he fucked that one right up. Another anonymous official went further and said the following to Los Angeles Times reporters. Anyone yelling lock her up because of this might as well have bought a trampoline with the word conclusion printed across it so they could jump on it. There could be damning shit in this new batch of emails, but at this point there's not evidence of anything.
This is kind of a leap from "We found emails related to Hillary while investigating a confiscated computer that was shared by Anthony Weiner and his wife, the vice chairwoman of Hillary's campaign, and we're going to read them to see if they could have anything to do with our previous investigation," don't you think? At this point, it could totally be exactly that. Or it could be absolutely nothing. No one's read the emails yet.
True, but I also don't believe she didn't know she was not supposed to delete 30,000+ e-mails while under subpoena, or that she had no idea how the classification system worked rather than just not giving a fuck. Nor do I believe her response to this incident and every other scandal is anything other than shameful. The pessimist in me makes me think the lengths she's gone to hide this stuff means there probably is something there, but we'll see where the investigation goes. Either way, she's already broken the law multiple times throughout the e-mail scandal, which is one of many.
I have a question about the deleted emails, assuming there's someone on this board more familiar with the limits of hackers and computer nerds than I am. Is there any chance of getting those (and those of previous administrations) back in any way, or are they pretty much gone forever? I"m pretty solidly in the middle between "Well like she said they were all unrelated and I totes trust her" and "She was obviously deleting them to hide incriminating evidence of criminal activity and/or proof that her private server was a huge fucking mistake" and it's been so frustrating not being able to know for sure. Is that just a lost cause? Dear FBI: I'm not advocating anyone do this, I swear
Nothing is ever deleted once its created. In terms of emails and files, they may say they're deleted, but in reality they're just moved somewhere else.
That was always the impression I had. Does anyone know if there was an effort to find them during the investigation? Or...how would one go about doing that. (These are probably embarrassing questions from a tech standpoint)
Data has to be somewhere in order to recover it. The question then becomes: is this data located anywhere the FBI might be able to access it? There are some places where it (in whole or in pieces) might be, but nothing definite, and nothing terribly likely beyond what the FBI has already found: The original server. This is what Clinton was supposed to have turned over, and anything she didn't was almost certainly destroyed at this point. The inbox of each individual recipient. You would have to reconstruct the archive recipient by recipient, and there's no guarantee that the emails have been saved on the receiving end, nor that you'd be able to identify all the recipients in the first place. A backup of the original server. Many systems create backups either passively or actively, and I believe Clinton's server had backups saved on a cloud service somewhere, which the FBI has already accessed. A sophisticated attacker who gained access to the server while it was running and copied the emails. Unknown if any such person or state actor exists, unlikely that they do, and even more unlikely they'd give up what they got. A sophisticated attacker who was able to successfully execute a MITM (man in the middle) attack and eavesdrop on the server's connections long enough to save meaningful amounts of data as they were being sent and received. Even more unlikely than the above. In short, it's theoretically possible, but unlikely.
I find it odd that what's in the e-mails is even so important to people for deciding what they think of Clinton. I suppose there could be a total bombshell in there, but what are the odds it tells you something about Hillary you didn't already know? It's like if tomorrow Trump called a reporter a fat cow for asking a question he didn't like. It would just be more Trump.
The issue is top secret information or indication of illegal acts, not some high school note-passing drama bullshit.
It's never totally deleted, there are always traces. However her admin supposedly used a program that wipes a hard drive 1000's of times. In simple terms, data is stored on a sector of a hard drive. Deleting it from your view does nothing other than keep you from seeing a dynamic link to that information. It's still there in the sector it was originally stored, which has plenty of room for other information still. That information needs to be overwritten God knows how many times before it's unrecoverable. Programs like Hillary's admin used write over each and every sector of a hard drive thousands of times with gibberish binary code to make what was originally stored there theoretically irretrievable. At least that's my understanding from my education in machine language from years ago, please correct me if I'm wrong.