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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Gravy

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    Heh. I have a vivid memory of someone on this board (it was likely you or Oden) posting something about immigrants in Europe and when I ran down the source lo and behold it did come from nazi propaganda. And I know for a fact you posted immigration crime stats from Breitbart and the stats were all created out of thin air by a guy who was concerned about the erasure of white culture. Stop pretending like you have nailed down THE OBJECTIVE TRUTH about this stuff. You haven't at all. You seem to continually fall for a lot of bullshit.

    Maybe I'm reading too much into this, but...

    It takes some balls 10 months into Trump's first term to call liberal voters stupid. And I don't know if you meant it this way, but you essentially called black and hispanic voters dumb. That wouldn't be entirely unexpected, but here I am trying to give you the benefit of the doubt. And yet, according to you all the dumb voters are the ones who avoided the unmitigated disaster that is Donald Trump.

    You can downplay it all you want, but there are serious serious serious fucking problems with the guy when senior senators from the same party start saying he is essentially unfit to be president. I mean anyone who wasn't a fucking idiot knew this in 2016, but now that is being borne out it is fucking scary. It's not a policy or racism thing: it's a basic mental fitness thing. Also, liberals aren't going to make Roy Moore a senator either. They also aren't elevating the infowars and project veritas to the main stage. There are stupid liberals and stupid democrats to be sure. I'd probably even be fine with statement "most american voters are stupid." But democrats surely aren't any dumber than republicans. And they are making objectively better choices in major elections as far as I can see just based on the criteria of "are you halfway fucking normal?"

    And the "Dems only cried about racism" is a pretty big rewrite of 2016. At the very least stop acting like republicans voted for Donald Trump based on policy. Donald Trump's rallies weren't policy wonk nerdfests. That's not how he was persuading people to vote for him. He was offering cons and people bought it up.

    Remember how he said he was going to give everyone health coverage and it was going to be cheaper and better? Yeah, how come he couldn't write legislation that did that?

    We are in a bad spot right now as a country because 62 million voters fell for a con man. You're included in that 62 million. Before you start going off on voters being stupid, you should take a look in the mirror.
     
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    I'm really at a loss as to how you can be so oblivious. How many times did I call him a piece of shit and say he would be a shitty president before the election? There was a few things I looked for as a silver lining. He actually did those things, or at least attempted to. I had a few positive posts about him, more or less. I think I said approximately 8000 times that both candidates sucked. Are you going to scramble all over the thread for something to quote mine now and pretend you didn't read all those posts?

    That's not what I said.

    That's really not what I said.

    Grow the fuck up.
     
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    Dude... get your head out of your ass. In no way, shape, or form did he ever even come close to hinting at that... you are flat out making shit up.

    This isn't the first time, but you should really make it the last.

    Stop doing that, or you'll be banned from this topic.
     
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    I'm sure you're going to disagree, but I'm really not making anything up. I'm just reading kampf's post with what I know to be true of the demographics of the 2016 election. I'm taking a stab at who kampf means when he says that dems play to a demographic that is so dumb the voters can only understand racism is bad (a claim by the way that is flat out making shit up). It seems like the large numbers of black and Hispanic dem voters would fall into that. Or are black and Hispanic voters just not listening to what kampf contends is the only real message offered by the democratic party? That would seem odd to me. In fact it would seem that if I were black or Hispanic I might care a little bit more if one party was racist.

    So here is my question: who are the voters too dumb to understand anything other than racism is bad? Which segment of the population do they come from?
     
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    There's your problem... you're doing a weird math in your head that makes no sense to anyone else. You can't just accept that what you know to be true is actually true, or known to others.

    To go from what he said to the conclusion you drew was too big a leap to be just accepted as truth.

    Spell it out, and back it up with sources, especially when you're being as incendiary as you were there.

    It's like me saying that sure, it's a known truth, but that means you obviously like to suck cock.

    Join the dots, if you would.
     
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    Heh. Alright. From the pew research center.

    I thought it was common knowledge to anyone who paid the slightest attention to politics in America that black and Hispanic voters overwhelmingly vote democratic. I guess not. My apologies.
     
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    I was curious about the actual statistics with this:
    Your sarcasm not withstanding, one of things that Nett was pointing out, is that you're only seeing it through what you perceive as the facts. You are attaching demographics to someone else's opinion. You may want to read this:
    Just FYI, in the US there are approximately 57 million white people age 18-30 (the potential voting group that Clutch stated). There are approximately 60 million black and hispanic/latino people age 18-80. In my opinion, there were plenty of stupid voters to choose from, if you feel so inclined to call Democrat voters stupid, and it's not necessarily an implication of their race.

    Both Clinton and Trump were terrible choices, though, so there's a lot of stupidity going around. I voted for someone else, but I'm just as stupid as the rest of the voters.
     
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    Where do you live? I'm more successful than my parents and very liberal. I'm sure the same can be said for many posters on this board as well.
     
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    I’m technically better off than my parents if we compare where they were at my age to where I am now. My mom is largely non-political but her opinions on social issues fall squarely in line with liberals. My dad however, is a disgruntled boomer who was a draft card burning hippy back when he was in college and seemingly takes zero interest or understanding to the differences of the late 60’s and today. He was raised in a household that was generally well-off for the time and he didn’t take anything seriously, hence his sociology bachelors degree.

    Now, he essentially spouts off Fox News talking points and voted for Trump out of a sense of white fear of the other. It’s amazing the lack of self awareness of people just like him.
     
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    I am befuddled that you are still trying to argue this. Seriously, what is wrong with you?

    Never did I say I think all democrats are stupid, nor was it implied (I happen to vote democrat more often than not, by the way). I definitely didn't apply what I said to a specific race.

    If I say some republican voters are morons, it by no means implies I think all republicans are, or that republicans are in general, or that I'm specifying white female republicans aged 36.

    This is not hard to understand. Why can't you understand this?
     
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    Because, dude, the bulk of your partisan posts are arguments against Feminism (and the Feminists on this board), BLM and racial issues, and other Liberal/Left/Democratic arguments and sentiments. And while you might criticize Trump, your posts give a very strong impression that you're in agreement with what he stands for. You come across as a very firm Conservative/Republican, despite your constant claims otherwise.
     
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    I couldn't give less of a shit what people think as to which party I lean towards.

    Really though, if I was truly conservative I don't think I would believe in the following:

    - want action taken towards climate change
    - pro choice
    - pro public health care
    - separation of church and state
    - want less military spending
    - higher taxes for the rich
    - for Marijuana legalization

    Granted, I'm not left on all issues, although I have no idea how at this point someone could support the left stance on immigration and terrorism.

    I'll ask though since you brought it up. What exactly in feminism should I support? If it's that I'm supposed to be against rape, I mean mmm ok. I suppose we're on the same page there.
     
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    Now you both are painting with broad brushes but don't act all outraged and baffled when he says you implied liberals were stupid when you posted the above 5 posts earlier.
     
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    I'm talking about a specific part of the base. How is this the same as all liberals or all black people or whatever the fuck you guys are accusing me of?

    Maybe I'm crazy, but that snippet people keep quoting looks perfectly clear to me.

    Also, I didn't know that was such a controversial statement, unless you guys really believe every liberal is smart.
     
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    Mark Cuban 2020?

    As much as I hate the mavericks, I really respect Cuban. Things could get interesting if he throws his hat into the ring, especially as an Independent.
     
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    No chance he’ll run. He’s smart enough to not want his life picked apart. He’s trying to build up the mavs post dirk. He knows where his bread is buttered.
     
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    But after Trump, does having your life picked apart really matter? We had audio and video of Trump being a straight dick, he said outrageous things, didn't matter at all. He still got the votes.
     
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    I don’t think it tanks him (ha Mavericks) but I don’t see him willing to deal with it. It’s in his best interest to not invite that scrutiny.
     
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    Hahahahahaha....

    Now Hillary's concerned that there's a "Sexual Assaulter" in the White House.

    She is the epitome of "Soulless Bitch."
     
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    I hope he does run. Not because I necessarily want to see him become president, but I think an independent candidate that can actually draw media attention, and has enough funds to run a proper campaign would be interesting. It would also be good to have an alternative in case the democrats nominate another turd.

    This is a brief overview of his political positions. Mostly stuff I can get on board with except for his stance on the internet. He describes himself as libertarian leaning, but he seems more like a moderate democrat. That said, I don't know a whole lot about his politics beyond some generic positions.