Paul Manafort and his top aide have been indicted as a result of the Mueller investigation. And it was for 12 counts of money laundering. Thats serious jail time in a federal "pound-me-in-the-ass" penitentiary.
That's adorable Nom. I remember discussing things with Parker, and he actually had thoughts to post on it while you were just writing a bunch of troll posts and stupid jokes, which you kept doing until it got so annoying and pointless the mods just deleted it. But you did recently argue with Nett for multiple pages on perhaps the stupidest position I've ever seen anyone take on here. There's that at least. Good for you. Pretty much what people were expecting, right? I'm sure Flynn will follow.
I just love how Russia is simultaneously selling dirt to both sides. "Yeah, whatever the fuck you idiots want..."
Some interesting reading in the Papadopoulos statement of offense. https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/4163402/Papadopoulos-Statement-Offense.pdf
Your powers of foresight are strong, could have never seen someone being indicted months after their house was raided by the FBI.
Does anyone know the legal ramifications if Trump directly colluded with the Russians to release dirt on Hillary? Let's assume it's true for a moment (and it's looking more likely that it is). Just for the sake of argument let's also assume there was nothing like money changing hands between Trump and the Russians. Is that still impeachable? Or what exactly would the likely penalty for the crime be? At the least it would prove Trump has been lying the entire time and I'm sure plenty of people will be outraged, but what would be the actual penalty *if* he wasn't taking money? Even with money involved, if the DNC paying Russians for dirt on Trump isn't really a crime, then why would it be a crime if Trump did it? I'm asking because this seems to be quite a murky area legally. Or maybe it's not? I wouldn't be surprised if congress just impeached him regardless, given how shamelessly he lied about it, pending what the extent of the connections were.
Collusion isn't exactly a legal term and most likely can only be proven through testimony. I think there is still a lot more stuff that we don't know about that will be released in time. Its looking like Papadopoulous wore a wire or something. More than likely, money was probably exchanged in the form of buying real estate. How much for that apartment? $150,000. I'll give $300,000 and no less. Manafort worked for Trump for free. How? He renovated a Brooklyn Brownstone in cash up front.
Right, and money laundering and taking bribes are real crimes, but when you're talking about paying for information, or just taking meetings to hear dirt on your opponent it's a lot less straight forward. We'll see what happens, but if someone as rich as Trump took this kind of risk for the money that is so bizarre. I can see him taking the risk for the prospect of gaining power, but for money seems odd. Then again, any underestimation of human greed is usually wrong.
We do not know anything about President Trump's financial State and certainly nothing about his personal cash flows. He refused to release his tax returns which could have been a road map to see how well off with assets he is and how efficiently he uses this assets to produce cash. I personally think he was a much bigger talker than producer.