It's a sad day when the mental fortitude of the president becomes a rhetorical question (even outside the echo chamber of this board). It is even worse when the Government is unable, or worse unwilling, to do anything about that.
What I find sad is that the government won’t get together and remove a clearly incompetent man from power. I assume this is because they think it would hurt their career. I guess as long as the stock market goes up no one really cares.
I thought he was a stupid asshole thirty years ago. It’s like Bizarro world now: the exact person who would make the worst possible President is elected President. The fact this walking self-attack ad made this this far speaks volumes of how far the US government has spiraled downward. It’s hinestly fucking pathetic. The most common thing you’ll here up here runs along the lines of “Do they know how stupid they look to the rest of the world?”
Just remember, this was all brought about because neither party could dredge up a palatable candidate from within. The alternates were Ted Cruz, Jeb Bush, Marco Rubio, Hillary Clinton and Bernie Sanders. They ALL suck. From now on, expect more from the party you claim, expect more (in general from your elected officials) and stop complaining. Take your medicine.
It'll be telling what the Dems do if they win the house in 2018. So far it's just been some of the hardcore moonbats calling for impeachment. Will they pull a GOPe and bitch out of anything meaningful?
I know, right? In all seriousness, it's been abundantly clear this country has been full of lunatics for the last few years. It's not just Trump, politicians are becoming a reflection of the voters. Speaking of this issue though, I don't get how it seems like we're choosing between "Muslims are the greatest most wonderful people ever and we need to get as many into this country as possible immediately." and "Muslims are pure evil and there are no exceptions." I don't see why we can't admit that a lot of cultures where this religion flourishes are backwards as fuck without pretending such sentiments are just ignorant bigotry and at the same time making a distinction between cultures without covering with quite such a broad brush. What's worse? The president doing the second one, or the one making endless excuses for them? Pelosi and Schumer wouldn't even meet with Trump recently. The republicans did NOTHING except obstruct Obama. Why? Because they're a reflection of the people who voted for them. I don't care if you don't like Trump. I don't care if you dislike Trump for very good reasons, or if you feel like the meeting isn't going to accomplish getting what you want. Get off your worthless sorry ass and at least show up. Fucking Christ.
That was yesterday and happened because he tweeted this in advance of the meeting: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/935513049729028096 Pelosi and Schumer are members of Congress with shit to do. There's no point wasting time (and likely political capital) meeting with someone who has no intention of making productive use of the time, just to assuage his ego. Trump is also historically uninfluential within his own party, and they were likely better off meeting with the House and Senate leadership to begin with, which is what they said they would do after declining the White House meeting. Given that this is a matter entirely within the purview of the Congress, the only use the President has here is to facilitate, which is something he is both unwilling to do and utterly incapable of.
Meet the man who deactivated Trump's twitter account. Depressingly, the article reports that twitter has protected trump's account from TOS violations. The day he was deactivated, like 2-3 hours before it happened, I reported his account for TOS violations. I report him whenever I get the chance, as a kind of civic duty I feel, but the reporting process is a bitch to go completely through since you have to provide evidence and reasoning. Regardless, it's cool to think that maybe, just maybe, mine was the report that got him briefly banned.
Yes, I'm aware of that. It doesn't matter. You still go to the meeting. Who the fuck are they to bitch about him not working with democrats if they won't even meet with him? How many times has Schumer went off about how the healthcare bill failed so Trump should work with democrats and then he pulls this shit? What, like at the meeting they just skipped? Because they were there. The president has more influence over his party than anyone else (even this president), and how does everyone keep forgetting he has a veto, or that he has a number of ways to influence the laws/bills congress passes through executive action? Well, he was at least going to meet with them. I don't give a fuck about these perceptions if they won't even try. I don't even disagree with you all that much. He's a horrible president and not one easily swayed by reason. Even so, just skipping meetings with him is a fucking disgrace. The fact that people think this is acceptable behavior from house leaders is really fucking sad. How is this government supposed to function if the opposing party won't even meet with the president? And to use an excuse like "We're too busy". That's fucking insane. And I don't believe for a second this was about properly allocating their time. It was done to make a statement for their base. Like I said, reflection of the voters. I can't tell if this is serious or a brilliant troll.
Case in point. What the fuck are they doing? What is this supposed to accomplish? What the fuck is wrong with them? I know it's tempting to say "Well, this doesn't really say anything about current politics or the country at large. This is just an isolated example." Except it isn't. This is what activism looks like now. This is the norm, not the exception. How often do you see activism that isn't utterly fucktarded? If anyone is wondering why this government and the people in office suck so much, just watch that video. There is not one intelligible word spoken, but it explains it quite clearly. Can you watch that and say "Gee, this sure seems like a group of people who are going to make really smart and informed decisions when they vote."? And what are conservatives doing? Being snowflakes about people kneeling while they complain about snowflakes. Edit: Speaking of that last part, it looks something good actually will come out of the kneeling for the anthem.
Welcome to democracy. However, the more damning thing you could post about people not making smart and informed decisions is just the 2016 Presidential Election results. 62 million people thought Trump would be acceptable as President. Can you even imagine?
A safer assumption would be that they're actually following the Constitution. There's no provision for Congress to impeach the President for incompetence. We could amend the Constitution to allow that, but then what president would serve his full term? Until we find that he committed a crime, we're stuck with him.
He says dumb, impulsive things. Hardly grounds for impeachment. The economy is doing fairly well and things are generally fine. He can be removed from power in under 3 years by the voters.
I think there will be a longer-term damage as a result of his appointments. NASA, FCC, Education, EPA, etc, are all examples of where he's making/made appointments that will drastically affect how those organizations work, and will result in damage to people and the environment. The bullshit around the Paris Accord, or the EPA, is a big deal, I think. For instance: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/03/how-trump-is-changing-science-environment/
I guess we can add Tillerson to the list now: https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/30/us/politics/state-department-tillerson-pompeo-trump.html
I think the unintended good fallout from Trump is that so many more "smart" people that aren't really politicians are now motivated to become involved in politics. They probably won't succeed against those sharks that normally swim in those waters, but I think it's a start. Overall I think it might be a case of one step back, two steps forward: short term = no big deal, he's an idiot medium term = bad, as other idiots or selfishly motivated people put in charge of important groups and change course, causing problems/damage that will take time to manifest and be recognized long term = good, as people react to that swing to the Luddite end of the spectrum
All true, but if we're talking in terms of impeachment, foolish policy decisions and unpopularity are still not cause to do so.
LOL, I don't put any stock in the Hillary scandals, durrrrr I hate all these stupid people. Yeah, as much as I get the desire to impeach Trump, getting someone out of office because they say stupid things or some people just don't like him sets a horrible precedent. I think the environmental policies are the worst for the moment. If Bush isn't getting impeached over Iraq there's no way Trump should get impeached for having his foot in his mouth.
I'd argue that. There is an elastic clause in the terms around what constitutes grounds for impeachment, and that is "other high crimes and misdemeanors". What does that actually mean? It's very subjective, kind of like "conduct unbecoming an officer" in the military... it's a clause that can be invoked for just about any reason due to the fact that there are no clearly defined actions that represent them. It basically provides enough cause to bring the charges forward for a vote, at which point it's kind of a political popularity contest. Clinton got impeached for perjury and abuse of power, both of which could be argued for Trump as well. That is why I'm very curious about the ongoing findings of Meuller's investigations. So yeah, there's nothing concrete right now to force an impeachment, but there's definitely enough cause to have one initiated, if enough people wanted it to happen. Right now I think it's just a case of not enough people wanting it, because they are getting away with a shit-ton of back-room dealings with lobbyists and donors using him as the scapegoat and smokescreen. As soon as he starts pissing off enough of his own party, I think it will change, and you'll see him seeing impeachment proceedings.