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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Crown Royal

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    And John Spartan will be the first spokesman for that. Full auto drive greatly inhibits your crime-fighting capability.
     
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    I view automated vehicles the same way I see automatic transmissions... it's a feature that will be useful and preferred by some, in some instances, but it won't totally take over.

    When I'm commuting to/from work or in heavy traffic, automatic transmissions are the way to go... hands down. But if I'm relaxing, and just enjoying the driving experience... then manual all the way.

    There is too much emotional experience, connection, and enjoyment tied into driving for it to be totally replaced by automation. The vast majority of car commercials are about how "sporty" the cars are, and how much fun it is to drive. Autonomous vehicles are not that, at all. They're like minivans. They are practical, and convenient. But they won't be the exclusive means of driving, ever, never mind within 20 years.

    That being said, self-driving transport trucks have already been on the road since last year... which makes sense. Long haul, boring, utilitarian routes. Perfect scenario for self-driving technology.

    The one area that autonomous vehicles will totally take over, especially when they become self-fuelling... is in practical jokes. Your friend passes out from drinking? Tie him up, gag him, throw him in the back seat, and say, "go to Ottawa".
     
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    I agree with this to a point. For the driving generation (old fucks like us) who associates an emotional feeling with being on the open road; The transition for us will be more difficult or not happen at all. What about for younger generations who never drove like I expect my daughter to fall into. What emotional response would it illicit if she's never driven a car through the curves other than as a passenger? It's just a tool for getting from one place to another and she couldn't imagine wanting to do that task when she could be reading, or working, or looking at the scenery.

    You wouldn't necessarily need to know the actual coordinates. I'm sure it would have a map function and you could just pick a point on it, and the car would literally "go over yonder". I'm sure the developers are smart enough to program the ability to update drive to locations on the fly.
     
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    While I agree that there is a segment of society that will grow up like that, I also believe that all of society won't grow up like that.

    For that matter, an argument could also be made that your daughter won't ever own a car... self-driving or otherwise.
     
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    That's quite possible, especially if she stays in an urban area. I'm not sure how the whole driver less car thing will shake out. For urban users there might just be a pool of cars and you order one, it shows up, you tell it "work" and off you go. Once it drops you off it gets released back into the pool. Or you might own the car, and you release it into the pool after it drops you off. I think rural drivers will probably still own their vehicles simply due to distances, and population densities.
     
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    That is what Lyft, Waymo, and Uber are all about.

    People that are driving for Uber have no clue that they are just a temporary stop-gap until such time as they can be automated away. That's why major manufacturers are playing the long game to team up with them to get automation in place.
     
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    Driverless cars will also put a lot of people out of work, especially truck drivers. And, reduce the number of available organs to be donated.
     
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    Don't forget about construction jobs. Excavators, graders, dump trucks, cranes. All of those will be automated and driverless as well.
     
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    This is hilarious. Someone put out a spoof out-take from the new Trump book and some journalists completely fell for it.

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    If that came across the news desk, I'd bet money it was fake

    ...but I wouldn't bet my life.
     
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    Hey, many still debate the pee thing. Hell I wouldn’t be surprised if he paid hookers to stomp on his genitals while wearing track & field shoes. Or even lured little kids into his limo from unwatched playgrounds, he has always rubbed me in every wrong way possible. I don’t want to know what an ACTUAL sicko he is. I just know it will trigger nausea.
     
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    I think it’s more of an indictment on the Trump administration that the fake passage was actually believable to some people. Think about if someone wrote that about Obama or Hillary. People would automatically assume it was an Onion piece. Between the 12 diet cokes a day and all the fast food, and the shear amount of TV he supposedly watches, is it really that fucking far fetched if he might like watching gorillas fight?

    Because of the breathtaking ineptness of this president and all the shitheads surrounding him, anything ridiculous could be believable.

    I saw it on a tweet from the comedian who wrote it and I laughed for a good 5 minutes.
     
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    To be fair, if there existed such a channel, it would get MASSIVE ratings in the US.
     
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    I'm pretty sure that channel does exist, and it's whatever used to be known as either MTV or TLC.
     
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    TLC needs to have a reality show where they they bring out this hot blue chip hooker and every guy except the one (who draws the short straw) runs train on her, every episode, full uncensored hardcore. During the final episode, they reveal she has full blown AIDS. You see, the secret “twist” in this show is the short straw wins.
     
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    I see it differently. I see people with such blind hatred that they are willing to believe anything against the object of their hatred no matter how ridiculous it may seem. It's actually scary. That's the whole reason white supremacist and Nazis exist. They hate a certain person/group so much they are completely ready to believe anything negative they read about them, even if it involves throwing all reasonable thought out the window. As long as it fits their narrative, it's gospel truth.

    I didn't like Trump the business man, I didn't like Trump the celebrity, I didn't like Trump the candidate and I still don't like him as president even though I voted for him. But the last thing I'm going to do is root for him to fail....that would be like hoping the ship I'm on sinks. He's a narcissistic, insecure, petty, bully troll. He's an asshole, pure and simple.

    But...how's your 401k doing? Did you know that CNN just did a story that black unemployment is the lowest it's ever been since they started keeping records on that sort of thing? Illegal immigration is down. Unlike previous presidents, he's actually doing what he said he'd do and it is benefiting most of us. Unless you're Barbara Streisand (Who said she'd leave the country if he was elected)...she's bitching that the tax bill is hurting her and the rest of the middle class. I'm not sure about anyone else here, but my income and Barbara Streisand's aren't even close. I thought the biggest point of contention from liberals about the tax bill was it only favors the very rich. I guess Babs is struggling to make ends meet?

    Trump may very well be a fucking idiot who should quit with his tweets and all the petty bullshit, but if you throw out all the partisan "Russia!" and media bullshit, this country is in better shape then it was a year ago.
     
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    The new tax bill is going to fuck 90% of Americans up the ass. And by "90%" I mean "99% of the Americans that read this board". It should hit you sometime in February... come back in 6 months and tell me how much it's improved your life. And that's just one way he's fucking over the US.

    In other news:

    https://twitter.com/netflix/status/949347324223832064?ref_src=twsrc^tfw&ref_url=https://www.thewrap.com/netflix-comes-out-in-support-for-net-neutrality-tells-fcc-we-will-see-you-in-court/

    That should be interesting, to say the least.
     
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    The biggest problem I have with the tax bill by far is that it's funded by deficit spending. Looking at how much less tax you'll pay next year is only half the equation. We could just as easily have "free" healthcare for all Americans if we could pretend that deficits don't matter.

    The second issue I have is how deliberately the bill targets blue states and attempts to punish them for operating as high tax high service states. I'm not sure we've ever seen an administration and a congress more blatantly out to serve their voters at the expense of those who didn't vote for them. There is not even a pretense that they are working to serve all Americans.
     
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    By your indicators, you must think Obama was one hell of a president. Take a look at the graph of the stock market from 08 to 16.

    Trump is a mixed bag of doing what he said he would do at best. More likely he is an incompetent being propped up by the Republican establishment.

    For example, he said that he would make sure everyone would have better, cheaper, health insurance. Is that the case? He never even put forth a proposal that made that possible. His latest move on healthcare will both increase premiums and the number of people without insurance. He didn't do what he said he would do there.

    He said he would build a wall paid for by Mexico. That's not happening.

    Didn't he promise that marijuana enforcement or lack thereof would be left up to the states? Whoopsie.

    He said in the campaign many times that he alone could fix all the problems in the country, but really he hasn't done much of anything that any other Republican with a pulse would not have done as well. He has a republican house, a republican Senate, and he bills himself as the greatest deal maker of all time but his biggest accomplishment is a tax bill that doesn't even keep his promise on carried interest? C'mon. And all this is a far cry from helping the "forgotten man" that he built his campaign rhetoric around.

    He inherited a good economy and has struggled to do the things any republican would have done while in office. This presidency should be viewed as a disaster even from a Republican standpoint. It surely will be by 2020.

    We are only a year in and time will ultimately tell, but God bless ya if you think the president tweeting out attacks on a journalist at midnight is really actually doing a good job if only people would pay attention. The guy who can't keep it together on Twitter is most certainly not able to keep it together on the shit that matters. That shit will hit the fan; it's only a matter of when.