Most of the whiners saying they'd come to Canada live in sunshine states. We have this thing called Winter. That is our wall.
The theories that Trump was compromised in the 1980's and is a witting Russian agent are wild conspiracies, but the notion that Russia clearly wants a Trump presidency, and was behind the DNC hacks, as well as leaking other information (true or fabricated) to wikileaks is pretty well supported at this point.
We know Russia is hacking us, as they always have been. Sure, but what does that prove about fucking with the election? More importantly what do you think about Assange's statement that the leak didn't come from Russia? Russia would not be above trying to manipulate anything, but that's been the case since the end of WW2 and it's really just a deflection from Hillary's never ending bullshit. Pretty much, what Assange said himself - And ... By researchers, I'm pretty sure they mean partisan hacks. I'm going to trust Assange more than Hillary on this one.
There have been multiple hacks, and Russia is not necessarily responsible for all of them, but they are certainly responsible for some of them. Even if Assange is telling the truth, as he believes it, how hard do you think it would be for Russia to pass the information to wikileaks through intermediaries and hide its true origin? Here is the official statement from Homeland Security, representing the US Intelligence Community: https://www.dhs.gov/news/2016/10/07...omeland-security-and-office-director-national
Or he caved under the mountain political pressure from the administration. We have to take him at his word, but that's likely what it is.
If we're speculating, I'm going to go with the opposite. Comey lost control of his house a while ago, and as a result was put in a position where the NY Field Office basically fucked him. He had something dropped in his lap a week before the election that his subordinates had been sitting on for more than a month, and had no choice but to inform Congress, lest his leaky boat make it seem like he was engaged in a coverup for Clinton, and then process it as quickly as humanly possible before the Democrats ripped his head off for gross misconduct regarding politicizing the bureau.
That's a likely scenario as well. We don't really know either way, which is why taking him at his word is the best course here. No matter the outcome the losing side will scream to high hell about it. If Clinton is truly innocent of the emails issue (the many other issues with her character aside) then that's a good thing.
Clinton has now run the most transparent presidential campaign in the history of campaigning thanks to Wikileaks. I find it utterly amazing that there hasn't been a single denial issued on this stuff. I also find it amazing that wikileaks is busy breaking all the news in 2016 and the media is busy trying to bury it.
Please, please, PLEASE tell me this means you actually think they're all going to Marina Abramovic's house to do satanic rituals. This has been my favorite part of this entire election.
Given that he announced the investigation for what appears to be partisan reasons, I think it was just an empty swamp. He didn't clear Clinton the first time, he basically just said "Yeah she's guilty, but we're not going to hold her accountable because that's not what this country does anymore." We'll probably never know what was in the 30,000+ e-mails she deleted or how many foreign governments hacked her. Just like I think she'll never be convicted on the Clinton foundation stuff and the crazy regressive left will say therefore she's innocent. The strings of maybes we now have to make it the Russian government releasing the Podesta e-mails. Yeah, maybe. Maybe it's someone inside her own camp. Maybe it's a non-government hacker working with wikileaks. Maybe it's a different government and not Russia. Clinton has implicitly admitted the documents are genuine. Hardly anyone is willing to entertain the idea that they were fabricated at this point. That's what should concern people. Not directing this at Aetius, but the regressive left is so easy to manipulate it's fucking scary. It's turning into zombieland out there. There are a lot of democrats pissed off at their party as well, so it leaves me with some hope that if this country chooses Hillary as the lesser of evils on Tuesday we'll get some more non-establishment candidates in the next cycle. Hopefully someone who is less of an asshole than Trump, or not such a far left socialist like Bernie. ??? They're pointing out a disturbing e-mail in the leaks. It doesn't mean all that much, but it's kind of funny the Clinton camp is associated with such weirdos. They're hacks because you don't like that the e-mails shed light on the reality about Clinton? Come on, man.
My statement was in general about the election as a whole. In relation to satanism or whatever this portends? Who. the. fuck. cares. I think no more or no less of a satan worshiper than I do a sky wizard worshiper. It's all make believe to me. Trying to use it as proof of right or wrong on either side is nonsensical.
Then I guess you are a true regressive. The way you guys spin things to make it feel like you won something is fucking sad.
Yeah, it's not about whether or not you should care if they're participating in satanic rituals or not. It's that they took an email about an invitation to a hippie dinner party hosted by a famous artist and said it was a satanic ritual, propping up their case by conflating that dinner party with images from her art that she did decades before the party was hosted. I saw that news at the gallery, and it had all four of us laughing so hard we were in tears. So is it that Wikileaks just carelessly editorialized that email without bothering to look into it at all? Or did they do the research and disregard that and mislead their followers? And what about all of the people who just blindlessly follow that and are now fully on board? The tweets in that thread were really funny for a while until they were sad. But at least satanic rituals are a harmless discovery to people who aren't god-fearing Christians. The same thing happened with this fucking pedophilia nonsense. I read the email that originated that rumor and started laughing so hard that THAT was what everyone was talking about. Then I stopped laughing and got so disgusted, because anyone who read that email and thought there was even a whiff of sexual undertones should be put on some kind of watch list for sex offenders. And this is what it's been like with 99% of all of these emails. You see the source and you just have to laugh at the ludicrous conclusions people are drawing from them. I don't hear too many people talking about thinking they're fake, minus that one from a month or two ago. It's just that people read them and see there's nothing there. The truth is on your side? B'okay.
You seriously look at wikileaks discussion on mishandling of classified information, rigging primaries, lying about her positions on issues (public v. private), push for open border and global trade, paying people to incite violence at opponents rallies, tampering with evidence, mocking catholics, mocking hispanics, colluding with the justice department, foreigners buying influence with government officials and determine that: nope all of those very important things are voided because they included an email about a dinner at a satanists house? Cool. I guess we will have to agree to come to different conclusions.
No, I look at the emails that people claim show that and realize that's not actually what they're saying. (For the most part.) You also still seem to be under the impression that Marina Abramovic is a satanist. Which is my problem with Wikileaks: they or some news site puts out an article or tweet about one of the emails with a splashy headline and a bunch of editorializing and that story runs rampant with people actually buying this shit because they either don't read the email or they look at it hoping SO HARD that there's some scandal in it that they'll just see whatever they've been told they should be seeing no matter what. The Abramovic story just illustrated the problem is such a delightfully entertaining way.