As I remember it Obama was lauded for his big data ground game as it was leveraged for unprecedented fundraising at the time. Im a bit confused as to what’s the issue in relation to Trump? The company might have accessed data they weren’t supposed to. Was this info fed to Trumps campaign? Is it just the micro targeting that’s the issue? Fucking everyone does that.
According to Guardian it is now: “Steve Bannon’s psychological warfare mindfuck tool.” Very balanced and reasonable reporting.
Trump didn’t do anything wrong. Facebook is in the wrong here. Also you guys keep forgetting there are conservative media outlets and liberal ones. The liberal ones liked Obama. You would have to check the conservative ones for the negative Obama coverage which was there.
If it turns out that there was no collusion, admittedly that is still a big if at this point, would all of the negative coverage have been deserving?
Yes. His actions are those of someone who is an embarrassment to your country. His behaviour is that if a petulant child. Not only that, he is a chronic liar who has no idea what he’s doing.
Absolutely. It's not like collusion is the difference between him being a good president or a bad president. He's a historically bad president without even considering potential collusion. Collusion is just the "should be tried for treason" cherry on this shit sundae.
Let's pretend that you are a parent, ok? I don't know if you are or aren't, but let's just pretend for a second. Would you want your child making fun of disabled people? Would you encourage them to discriminate against other races? Would you be ok with them lying or at least bending the truth? How do you feel about sexual assault and cheating on their spouses? Would you be ok with them comitting those acts and treating their spouse that way? If you can answer "yes" to all of the above, then sure, all this negative coverage wouldn't be deserving. I'll grant you that. And I'd feel very sorry for your future children.
I can’t argue with petulant child antics. Legislatively, as in what’s been passed and not twitter claims, he’s far from historically bad. I think part of people’s perception of the situation is the same as every generation thinking it’s the end times. Simply because we’re alive at the moment it has to be the worst. Outside of his unpresidential bluster and the msm sky is falling reporting fairly unremarkable so far.
Again with the "whataboutism". The difference between Obama's social media campaigning and Trump's might have something to do with who funded it, how the data was acquired and y'know how factual it was. Or did you forget things like Pizzagate that ended up with people dead over a complete fabrication. As well, in the 2008 campaign, Facebook wasn't nearly as sophisticated as it is now. Also known as "I won't release my tax returns, nevermind all those sexual assault allegations and ties to Russians under sanctions but her emails and his long-form birth certificate tho...." If it turns out there's no collusion, which I fervently hope is the case, you have to admit that a serious liability in our democratic processes was identified. Who exploits it next? Objectively, under Trump's leadership you can point to an immense deficit increase, major ground surrendered to the Russians and Chinese, racial tensions are inflamed for no apparent reason, not to mention a cabinet filled with incompetence, nepotism and outright criminals. The major problems we're facing: inequality, losing ground to our rivals, economic stagnation and the decline of American soft power and our atrocious health care costs have all been exacerbated since Trump's arrival on the scene. To put it in perspective, whoever Trump puts as the next Secretary of State will not be taken seriously, because he or she is a Tweet away from being fired. Why would you negotiate with someone when they won't last long enough to see their promises through? At some point, you have to put aside all assumptions and assess objective fucking reality here. Trump's a bad president....he's bad for the Republican party as evidenced by the attention-grabbing special elections in PA and AL, the high-profile retirees (Trey Gowdy comes to mind), and the shutdowns, legislative failures and lack of vision when they have a pretty broad majority. He's bad for our economy long-term because of what he added to the deficit, the instability (shutdowns) and the lack of business support other than tax cuts. He's bad for our government because of inept appointments (Ben Carson, anyone?) and hollowing out enforcement of things that makes his billionaire friends go 'yuck', not to mention the nepotism laws and lack of appointments to major agencies (literally hundreds of vacancies). Yes, I think objectively, he's an asshole. There are policy points that I want him to succeed on (not a lot, but there are), and I can get behind him on issues like gun control, immigration reform that is more common sense and less kumbaya, and making the tax code simpler (missed the boat on that one I think). Yes, I think objectively the guy who ran the Miss Universe pageant and is on his third wife and has said really creepy shit about his daughter in public has committed sexual assaults a time or three. I wouldn't be surprised if he used campaign funds to pay hush money to a porn star. You have to wonder why every other guy who's ran for office has been pretty transparent about their business holdings, even creepy-ass Cheney or John Kerry. Why hasn't Trump, who's whole ethos is rich mogul, been more transparent about his business now that he's king of the world? To the point that he drew a big line in the sand with the Mueller investigation about his holdings. So, yeah...bad president. Historically and completely.
I wouldn’t let my daughter bomb Syria or let her corporations declare bankruptcy five times. That’s a paddlin’.
For those of you wondering how Facebook, the Russians, and the Trumps are all kind of working together, or for those of you thinking, "Facebook isn't going to influence how I or anyone I know is going to vote...", you may want to read this very interesting post from Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/c...cebook_movement_gains_steam_after_50/dvz4y6o/
They're literally writing his briefings in the style of his own tweets hoping to get his attention and it still doesn't work.
I see this kind of thing a lot. Do people think Trump is stupid? I have no idea what his IQ is but I am left with the impression that he is no dummy.
The impression that I get is that he's definitely not as smart as an Obama, Clinton or Nixon, but he's not Jethro-at-the-gas-n-go stupid. That said, his narcissism interferes with his judgment so aggressively it's almost like a defacto hit to his intelligence.
I think that he is playing the media right now re: Mueller. If he were going to fire him, he would have done it already. I also don't think there is going to be any collusion found and that he is stringing this along because it is giving him cover somewhere else for something else. If I had to guess, in the background, there is some partisan bloodletting that is getting ready to take place. I think that explains the rush to judgement on McCabe with redacted information because it is part of a larger criminal indictment that is going to come down.