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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Crown Royal

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    Oh, it’s total bullshit. Rudy Guiliani just told me so.

    I find it so fitting that he’s his lawyer now. The whole “let the police do whatever they want” thing makes perfect sense when you have that oily cocksucker constantly whispering in your ear. Did you know he was the mayor of New York during 9/11? I think he’s mentioned it.
     
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    While those two points are valid and make me start listening a bit closer, what would it take for Republicans to actually do anything about it? You know, in the event anything actually comes out of this.

    They just nominated the guy for a Nobel fucking peace prize.
     
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    I saw an interesting take on this.

    In the end, it seems pretty apparent that Trump is fairly protected from the repercussions of doing illegal or questionable things... as long as the Republicans stay in power.

    He doesn't need to try and defend himself legally, he needs to defend himself socially. What he needs to do is to stop the Democrats from taking over from the Republicans, so what you're seeing is a PR blitz that is trying to get his voters to believe that everything he's been doing was so that Hillary couldn't win, which somehow makes it acceptable to his voter base.

    It also become a rallying point to get his voters out to stop any kind of takeover.
     
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    Anyone else hear Guiliani this morning saying trump re-payed the hush money? Which of course goes in the face of what the WH and trump had said previously, that he didn't know anything about it.

    Someone isn't telling the truth. It was fun watching Sanders squirm during the WH briefing today. Props to the reporter who asked her, literally, "Does the president think he's above the law?"
     
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    The other theory is that the Trump team became aware of the wiretap and realized that the feds knew, and could prove, that the repayment happened, so Giuliani is just trying to get out ahead of it from a PR perspective.
     
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    Well that theory got blown apart. NBC issued a correction saying it was a pen register, not a wiretap. So they were monitoring who was being called, but not actually listening to the contents of the conversations.
     
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    That would be some impressive manipulation if that initial "wire tap" news was a plant... get them to think it's legit, have them try and get out ahead of it, and then "clarify" the reporting.
     
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    “Here at (So-And-So), We use fake news to get to the real story.”
     
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    I have heard this so many times and I honestly don't get what the point is supposed to be. Is it that because there exists people in this country that hire some illegal immigrants we should therefore never enforce an immigration policy? Or is the point supposed to just be that because of one quote Trump said over a year ago anyone who doesn't want a completely open border thinks every immigrant is a rapist?

    Also, Oden is not technically wrong. They are criminals who broke the law. Yes, that doesn't make them bad people or anything like that any more than a 'criminal' smoking weed in Texas is a bad person, but he is technically right, just saying.

    I have heard a number of times people flat out deny that an influx of immigration drives wages down and I have no idea how they think that. It's usually some bullshit reference to a liberal rag, but it's obvious companies already do this all time. Why the fuck were so many of my employees fresh off the boat from Ethiopia and Somalia when I worked in manufacturing? Hint: It was not because people that couldn't even speak English or had even attended 4th grade math classes had the best resume.
     
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    I've wondered about this one. What is the benchmark for nomination and award?
     
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    Whatever it is, it’s strange. I seem to recall Obama winning one VERY prematurely in his tenure (was he even in office yet?).
     
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    I don't think he'd even been nominated. They just gave him one, a preemptive award for the post-GWB world peace he was sure to bring about.
     
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    So the bar for a peace prize is very low.
     
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    No, it means Trudeau has the benefit of soapboxing on the issue without actually having to deal with any of it, at least in an impactful way. Except when Canada's immigration policies are more or less on the same level as the US. And lets be clear, the "refugees" arent seeking political asylum, otherwise they would accept it from the first country that offered it. Its just immigration. Its the same thing when a lot of the Middle Eastern refugees traveled all the way through Europe and arrived in Sweden.
     
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    I didn't mean it about Trudeau or even towards Crown specifically. I was legit asking because I've heard what he said or some very similar variant so many times and I have no idea what it is supposed to prove.

    Regarding Syria though, I am very curious to see how first world nations act with regards to subsequent conflicts. I just can't imagine that all these countries are going to take so many refugees every time a crisis like that breaks out. The bleeding heart sentiments are nice and all, but that just isn't realistic. It really is amazing that such a tiny nation has had such a substantial impact on global politics over such a long period.

    He was nominated for the award something like ten days after taking office and won it about 9 months into his presidency. It was so absurd he gave serious consideration to rejecting it. The Nobel peace prize has always been a joke. They awarded it to Kissinger (who did not even accept it) two years before the Vietnam war ended. They have awarded it to a terrorist. They gave Al Gore one for essentially nothing.

    That said, I so, so badly want Trump to win it. So much potential for so much awesome. The fall out would be the funniest shit in pretty much ever.

    *Not that I think there is any chance at all that it will happen.
     
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    I take Nobel prize awards for things like Science a lot more seriously. People like the wizards at CERN deserve recognition and funding. When when it comes to the Peace prize... it’s about as credible to me as the American Music Awards.

    And Trump winning one could be very real because just like an Oscar, literally anybody can win one. This we know.
     
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