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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Crown Royal

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    My daughter does that plenty on weekends and the summer. I am relieved to see at least children like to get out whenever they can (at least around here). What I personally noticed that’s changed is that now parents at both ends are in far more communication while kids are playing at either house. What they’re doing, when they’re leaving, what time they need to be home....you can almost hear the helicopter blades. It annoys my wife and I. We give our kid a long range walkie-talkie in the nice weather months. Done and easy.

    Back in our parents’ day, the philosophy of parenting was “Fuck it.” If your kid was still breathing at the end of the day you did your job. And you gave them compound bows for birthday gifts for their tenth birthday. Not for hunting, but to play with. However: it was the OPPOSITE when it came to teachers. Nowadays, parents lunge at the opportunity to blame teachers for their own kid’s bad grades. Back then, there was no daylight between a parent and a kid’s teacher. A teacher said “straighten your kid out” and the parent did just that.

    Kids nowadays are allowed so much more room to do what they want. And what they want to do is be lazy. The things as mentioned we have (bottomless instant entertainment at your fingertips) has to play a large role in it.
     
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    I think we need to bring back the dumb teenage movie. Starting with a License to Drive reboot, then going into some National Lampoon trash. These Generation Z brats don't have any bad role models.
     
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    I agree. There’s no fun for the sake of fun anymore. If we really did hit the culture peak and need to recycle what we like, we need pure R-Rated smut films. But of course they’ll “offend” people. “Women don’t just get naked for no reason!” Yeah, well, movies like Ski School and Porky’s taught me that they do. And my way is better because it’s fun.

    Kids have had their proverbial balls cut off. They don’t have the kind of grandparents we had with stories of their youth to keep us grounded in reality and aware of our mortality. A lot of us, including myself share direct living bloodlines with killers. It makes you appreciate everything you have.

    Heck, maybe the solution is that we should start beating the shit out of kids again. Like the good old days.
     
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    I think we should bring back mild bullying. This “everyone gets a trophy” bullshit is making for some weak ass kids.
     
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    Losing is not bullying. Losing makes you want to win more. Participating, having fun while doing it, is the reward. Winning -and getting the trophy- is the bonus you might or might not get. And everyone loves winning, because you get remembered. No guy on here remembers their second blowjob.

    ...but nobody wins every time. Okay, maybe Jack Nicholson but competition builds character, learning to deal with losing also does and is a warm-up for youth to their upcoming working life where most adults are constantly competing.
     
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    It was just brought to my attention that this is the Political thread, so let's try and keep non-political commentary over in the Serious thread, if we can.

    While the initial topic was around the politics/economics of high minimum wages, I think it's drifted far enough off target to warrant the change in venue.

    Thanks.
     
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    Back onto politics, NY State AG Eric Schneiderman has resigned amidst highly credible allegations of physical assault against women.
     
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    It’s crazy. Luckily he resigned quickly to minimize the damage.

    What’s amazing to me is the end zone celebrations from people in the Trump circle over this as if he’s not been credibly accused 14 times.
     
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    So...how does one go about arresting the person who can arrest anybody in your country?
     
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    God damn Canadians, that's not how America works.
     
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    They would have to bring charges. And I’m not sure if discovery applies in criminal cases, but they can probably sue for damages, which would then open them up to really invasive digging. They might not want to go after him legally, but they will be happy to ruin his career.
     
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    Will this damage the credibility of the whole office, or was he known to fly solo as lecherous swine? I mean...the top LEO of New York....that one is a motherfucker.
     
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    The office is fine. He was basically a champion of liberal causes and did great work. Plus New York is reliably democrat pretty much forever. The work being done in concert the Mueller investigation will continue.

    The state RICO charges and possible money laundering will still happen even if Schneiderman isn’t there.

    Whoever takes the place will pick up right where he left off.
     
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    So with fewer people being paid more you have less people working. And removing social services so what do you see happening with all these people?

    You might not like the notion of taking care of those people. And while I fundamentally disagree with the basis of your argument. They don’t just go away if you take away low paying jobs. Unless I’m missing something here we would just end up with lots of people with low paying jobs and relying on government assistance and go to lots of people without jobs and no government assistance.
     
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    So took a quick look at an article on the bill you referenced and yeah there were a lot of problems with it. The bill was set to make his increase over four years, definitely not enough time to go from $9 to $15. And had some provisions for tax relief for small companies based on the additional labor costs, but agreed that it was too much, too fast.

    But how do you get companies to pay livable wages to workers?

    I think the biggest thing government can do is figure out ways to reduce the cost of living for its citizens thereby reducing what that livable wage needs to be (healthcare, increasing and fixing public transport) That combined with a more gradual increase in minimum wage I think would be more effective than just trying to jam through increases.

    I know socialism is a scary word for people in America, but I look at it as basically buying in bulk. There are some things that the overall cost to everyone would be lowered if problems and solutions were looked at in a more collective basis
     
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    He insists it was consensual, just your usual Dom-Sub situation. The question is, did the women know that? Sounds like they didn't.

    All this Black Cube stuff coming out should put people on notice: your opponent could give two fucks about fighting dirty. Keep your nose clean, no more mulligans.
     
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    Trump has announced that the United States will reinstate sanctions on Iran.

    This goes hand in hand with a really important scandal in which Trump aides hired an Israeli intelligence firm to dig up dirt on Obama officials involved in the Iran deal. What this tells us is that the official US intelligence assessment does not support the White House's assertions on the Iran deal, and that the White House had a preordained conclusion they wanted to come to and have been looking for political cover for it ever since. This is an impeachable offense.
     
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    Name me one impeachable offense trump has committed that has actually been followed through on though? [yes I know Russia, but the mueller probe isn’t finished and we don’t know what he knows yet]

    Maybe he wasn’t joking. Maybe like he said during his campaign, he really could go in the middle of 5th Ave and shoot someone and still gain support.

    At this point I’ll believe the impeachment talk when I finally see the proceedings start.