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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. trojanstf

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    It’s almost like you’re answering a different question than I asked.

    Why would it take you millions of dollars to be patriotic? And only if millions of people were watching? Kind of showy if you ask me.
     
  2. Juice

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    To split hairs, NFL players have to do it 16 times a year (plus playoffs), not 5 days a week.

    I think most lazy protesting like this is stupid. But forced patriotism is just odd.
     
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    I've always felt weird about the national anthem stuff at sporting events. I stand, but don't take off my hat or do the hand over heart thing. Forced nationalism, even if the force compelling it is societal, seems very authoritarian to me. If my company told me I had to do that every morning I'd be looking for a new job immediately.
     
  4. Kampf Trinker

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    It bears repeating that they don't have to do it.

    And with all due respect, you would not be looking for a new job if you were getting a 7 figure salary and were asked to do it 16 times per year.
     
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    That's what I'm trying to understand while people are losing their minds over this.

    No one is forcing anyone to do anything. It's a compromise, which everyone embedded in their identity politics seems to forget is how things are supposed to work.
     
  6. Frebis

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    The Jets CEO says he will pay the fines for any players that wish to keep kneeling.

    This whole thing is the dumbest fucking thing going on in the news. I don't understand why anyone cares so strongly about it either way. You should not care what other people do when it does not/can not/ will not effect you.

    I personally stand during the national anthem. I take my hat off. I sing along. But that's me. If someone doesn't want to do that, why should I give a shit?
     
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    Remember that whole deal about trump getting the nobel peace prize for meeting the fat NK dude?

    Yeah, he just called the meeting off.

    Didn't see that coming.
     
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    Because you aren’t woke and YOU ARE PART OF THE PROBLEM.
     
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    Except that it's not. The owners unilaterally decided to implement these new "standards" without any input from the NFLPA, hence why they've already come out and said they plan on challenging any action levied against any players if/when it were to occur.
     
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    The other thing that comes into play here is the owners and players in the NFL are at odds moreso than most other leagues. Any reason to battle each other they generally will. They just finished a case that went to the US Supreme Court. So some of it is “the protests” and some of it is owners telling the players to do anything is going to get push back.
     
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    Last thing I heard, South Korea exaggerated NK's willingness to negotiate in order to facilitate the meeting because they were so scared of the vitriol going back and forth. I wonder what they told NK about us.
     
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    Probably that the whole "Donald Trump" thing was just a character he does. What naive fools the NorKs were.
     
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    It strikes me as being along the same lines as "voluntary" work functions that aren't really voluntary, at least if you want to stay in the company's good graces.
     
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    The obsession with protesting the cops has gotten ridiculous anyway. Not that it doesn't matter, but according to WAPO there was 19 unarmed black people shot by the police last year, and 18 the year before that. Some of whom were attacking (or threatening) the cops like idiots. In a perfect world the number of wrongful shooting would be zero, but at this point, if you're black you're more likely to die by tripping down the stairs than getting shot by the cops for no reason. Despite the numerous attempts the data just doesn't back up their narrative that police are shooting black people en masse for no reason.

    People are obsessed over a handful of wrongful shootings a year, but where are the protests for the fucking THOUSANDS shot to death every year by gangs? It really drives home the point (this was posted awhile back in the serious thread) a black cop was making that these people don't seem to actually give much of a shit about black lives. They only care when they feel like they can blame racism, or white people, or the system, or what have you.

    I'm not saying people shouldn't care about this issue, but after four years of jackasses acting like cops shooting black people for no reason is the greatest fear in their day to day lives, I've pretty much stopped giving a shit.
     
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    Are gangs sworn to protect and serve you? Can you have a problem with both things?
     
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    Of course, but it's pretty clear they are obsessed with one much more than the other, and the one they are obsessed with is a much more infrequent occurrence.
     
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    Is this one of those things where you can’t care about gun safety because cars kill more people and you can’t care about car safety because heart disease kill more people?
     
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    No....
     
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    Please, for the love of god, lets not turn this into another discussion about race. Or do it, I don’t really care.
     
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