For the first time in this election cycle I believe Trump may win it. Actually, it's looking like he will. Everyone on MSNBC is trying not to look like they're freaking out. But they are. And in one way, this makes me significantly happy and hopeful for the future.
Her national lead was 2.7-3.3%. To get her to 5 or 6 you needed to rely on non-scientific data. It had merit, but those weren't the polling averages.
They are really taking their sweet time with calling Florida. The areas that haven't finished counting must lean blue. Or they're just full of shit, and I'm hoping on that.
Well, that's part of it. Why I'm happy is the population of this country has finally said 'fuck you' to the elites who have fucked it six ways come Sunday. What I find ironic is it's a Republican nominee that's the fuck you to the system and it's the Republican neoconservative ideology that put us here in the first place. As a political scientist, I can't think of how this gets better other than having Kristen Welker blow me while I watch the results.
CNN is desperately trying to figure out ways that Hillary can win. Trump is also ahead in MI and WI with the heavy Dem areas already in.
Yea, but nothing is real anymore. I don't even know if traditional swing states are swing states anymore. Are we taking for granted the west coast anymore?
I am fantasizing about how hilariously awkward Hillary's concession speech will be. "I don't understand these people." It's because we understand you, bitch. Still way too close to call.
Her firewall is struggling. Some of the states she won weren't supposed to be that close either. I have no idea how NYT is giving Trump those kinds of odds, but they're kind of on their own for the moment.
Which has really got me wondering: What's the future of the Democratic party? If Trump wins The GOP pretty much controls the entire country - Congress, the Presidency, state legislatures, and state executive branches. Even if Clinton wins, at this point it'll be by a very narrow margin and all of the rest of what I said still holds. To me this goes beyond simple dislike of Hillary; the Democratic party has been failing at every level except the Presidency for the past 8 years.
I hate to break it to you, but not good after nominating Hillary. She can still win, but even then it's going to do serious damage to the party. Edit: I really dug my heels in with Trump when she refused to answer anything on her scandals and then leaked that 'it's complicated' narrative to the media. I doubt it's that rare of a sentiment. Some of the people voting for her are equally pissed off about it.
This is an excellent point. Is this result less about the hate of Hillary Clinton and more a referendum of the Democratic party as a whole? With the areas that she is losing, especially in Wisconsin, Michigan and Pennsylvania, those are white working-class voters. The very people the Democratic party was supposed to represent. If they lose them, the party has to rethink its values for sure. And as I type this Trump wins North Carolina.
I like to flip through CNN, Fox News and the networks. I left the room and came back to a commercial for "CNN Election Headquarters: your trusted news source." (or something like that) And, I thought, oh I'll check Fox now. It was ON Fox. CNN was running an ad on Fox News. During the election results.
But like I said, this goes beyond Hillary. Even if it was Bernie instead of her that doesn't explain the last 8 years of losing. I personally believe that gerrymandering and voter suppression has some impact, but nowhere near enough to explain the level GOP dominance. Regardless of the outcome, the Democratic party needs to have a serious evaluation of itself and why it's doing so badly at the state level.