The ironic part is Trump calling it a Democratic Witch Hunt... just about everyone investigating him are more Republican than he is... especially Meuller.
He couldn’t have operated at that level without others being involved, and at that time, liberals. Everyone from law enforcement to zoning committees were complicit.
Agreed. The actions of a desperate man. It wasn’t a bipartisan witch hunt, though. They’re not after conservatives, they’re after Trump.
Then let everyone involved in furthering whatever crimes we know he committed be brought to justice, regardless of political ideology. Nothing disinfects like daylight.
I’m sure it had everything to do with his investments at the time. I do think he’s going senile, however. Even with a little money from his dad, Trump doesn’t have access those kinds of assets with his current mentality.
His NPD makes diagnosing senility next to impossible from where we're sitting. It's like trying to figure out if a ball of string encased in chewing gum is tangled. I mean, maybe? But it's covered in gum so who knows.
Now THIS is ironic: Betsy DeVos, US secretary of education, loses student loan lawsuit brought by 19 states. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/arti...-states-suit-over-borrower-defense-rule-delay EXACTLY who you want to run your country's education system, no?
I think the 'Russia' investigation is a witch hunt. So far Mueller has indictments or guilty pleas from 32 different people. Not even one of them is about working with Russia to interfere with the campaign. That's not to say I think Mueller isn't investigating Russian influence on the election or with the Trump campaign, but it's pretty clear the investigation is just prosecuting anyone related to Trump for any crime they can find. Doesn't that sound a bit like a witch hunt? But no, I really don't feel bad for Manafort or any of the others falling under the hammer. Can't say I'll feel bad for Trump either if/when this turns up evidence of crimes even if they aren't Russia related.
I mean, if there is evidence a crime was committed, don't they deserve to be prosecuted? That being said, I still dont think Trump will be indicted for anything, it would have happened already. But who knows, I could be wrong.
I agree, that's why I don't feel bad for them. I won't be surprised if Trump does get indicted. I just doubt it will be about some under the table deal with Putin.
What would you need to see in order for this investigation to not be a witch a hunt? I mean, I hear this kind of stuff a lot. People drum up their own definition of what the evidence should look like, and if it doesn't meet their uneducated expectations, it not legitimate. I think if there was nothing there, it would have already concluded. The discussion starts off as "you're just angry Killary lost!" to "there was no collusion" to "well, they tried but it didn't work" to "theres no evidence votes were changed!" to what exactly do you need to see? A security camera with Trump and Putin shaking hands with Trump saying thanks for all the election help? I mean jesus christ already. Mueller has found a lot of stuff from his investigation and he farmed it out to other federal prosecutors if it didn't fall within the purview of his directive. Which is why Manafort will undergo 2 trials. Trump's money problems go back way before the election. You start here and work backwards.
Not sure if you seen this, but it's a very interesting read: https://www.buzzfeednews.com/articl...ower-meeting-suspicious-transactions-agalarov
That was not at all the tone of my post. My point is that the investigation has gone after anyone related to Trump for any crime they can find. I'm not sympathetic to them. I mean, is Manafort any less guilty just because what he got caught for doesn't directly pertain to Trump/Russia collusion? Not so much. To be fair, while the Russia stuff might be more juicy for the media, the investigation was never shy about how broad their scope was going to be. To look into coordination between the Trump campaign and Russia, and "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation." Basically, find anything you can and prosecute it.
Mueller is following the same process he did when he was successful against ENRON... build up the cases around the periphery, then use that as pressure to get to the main actors. In the case of ENRON, he went after the wives to get that pressure. Watergate took over 2 years to investigate. Benghazi took over 2 years, with final reporting being released some 4 years after the fact. This isn't even 2 years in and there are a shit-ton of indictments and illegal shit being uncovered. Again, for anyone calling this a "witch hunt", it's kind of funny how they're actually finding a shit-ton of witches.
Out of curiosity, if all the people pleading guilty, getting indicted, and being convicted were Democrats, would this still be a witch hunt to you? Because I’d be all about a good old fashioned house cleaning if the shoe were on the other foot.
Some of them were democrats actually. At least once upon a time. I'm looking at you, Flynn. If all our politicians were investigated for malfeasance with this kind of intensity I suppose you could call that a witch hunt as well, and fuck yes I would be in favor of it. For sure. It's just not about the Trump campaign illegally colluding with Russia. My money says they get him for something else, but we'll see.
I'm kind of leaning towards it's not a "pick only one" thing. I imagine there will be some financial illegalities with his charity, companies, and campaign finances, for instance.