Elephants and Jackasses...

I say regardless whether Kavanaugh is guilty of anything, they should send him to the barn. How could you still want this man to be a SCJ after we saw the mask come off at the hearing? He was completely clueless as to where the fuck he was and the seriousness of it. He is a whiney, pretentious and spoiled clown and we all saw it, siding him to next to Comey’s hearing who was flat-out fired from his job and the entire time acted like an abused Orphan politely asking for seconds.

Kavanaugh is not going away if he gets voted in. He’s herpes and he’s your friend for life. That is one spiteful, nasty, stupid motherfucker you got there.

 

I don’t think I’m quite as partisan as you are describing. In general, yes, I prefer left leaning judges. But Gorsuch didn’t go through all of this because his character is not in question.

I don’t care that Kavanaugh drank as a teen. I care that he lied about the extent of it. I care about his sketchy finances. I care he lied about silly shit in his yearbook. Why can’t he just be honest? Unless he’s hiding something...

I care that he did a Fox News interview painting himself out to be Jesus Christ himself. I think to be on the Supreme Court, you should be a beacon of honesty. Even if a persons politics aren’t in agreement with my own, I accept that people are different and that the government should have a good mix of people.

The dude lied his fucking ass off and behaved as more of a partisan hack than a federal judge ought to. I expect it from McConnell, not from someone trying to be a Supreme Court justice.

 

I'm on my phone so I'm not going to spam links, but they did the exact same thing with Gorsuch. You remember why the nuclear option got used, right? Overturn Roevwade, he's hiding something, why is he so evasive, so far outside the mainstream, religious nut, straight partisan hack, etc etc etc.

I don't love Kavanaugh, but I do think you guys are really fucking harsh. He did bad at the hearing, but he's a liar because he didn't call himself a sloppy blackout drunk? Come on. If it's not that it's him saying "I like beer" too many times. On the yearbook thing he basically admitted what the joke was, but was probably embarassed because it was some loser poser shit. The girl apparently didn't even kiss him. Am I really supposed to care about this though?

I'm a little sympathetic to someone losing their cool when being badgered about being a groping rapist drunk, from the same people who lied about how racist he was and claimed more bullshit than I could even hope to keep track of, but fine, a person in his position should be expected to do a lot better.

I did not see the Jesus Christ fox interview, but I will say you kind of have to try to highlight the less rapey sides of yourself on the defense, don't you?

I like him a lot better than judges like Scalia, who Trump endlessly compares him to. I like that when something like the ACA's constitutionality comes to his court he says it is outside their jurisdiction instead of trying to get it overturned through partisan fuckery. I like that he rules on the law rather than trying to twist the law to his own politics, but it seems like that's all people expect him to do.

If his character is as bad as guys think I think the investigation will show that. Even if they can't prove rape these things tend to do pretty well in exposing assholes, and if it looks bad enough he's toast anyway.

 

He isn't lying about it simply because he doesn't want to look like a big time teenage party animal or a loser. He is lying about it because it undercuts his defense that he was a good christian boy who has always respected women and couldn't have ever done anything Dr. Ford describes because he remembers every drunken moment he has ever had.

He's lying to protect himself from accusations of criminal behavior. That seems like kind of a big deal.

 

Republicans really want to make sure the FBI doesn't find anything on this squeaky clean nominee whose reputation is above reproach.

 

"Fuck America to own the libs!"

 

Everyone is pushing their chips forward on this. He’s either being railroaded, or he’s a predator. Not very much grey area. If he is exonerated, my money would be on him doing exactly that. But then again, if you were accused of such things THAT publicly and were innocent who the hell WOULDN’T want to scorch some earth of those who trashed your life?

 

Did you think the gloves were on when the republican party didn't even give Merrick Garland a vote?

 

Now that the White is house is limiting the scope for the FBI to exclude current accusations that have already been made, can we stop pretending they aren’t trying to hide something from this guy’s past?

Well, it seems they are trying to. Not sure if they can actually do that or not.

 

It'd be wild if the White House knew he was innocent of the sexual assault allegations but are stonewalling because they know he murdered a guy in 1998 or something.

 

For one, the definition of lying seems to widen by the day, and your response to this is one of two things. "Yes, I was black out drunk. All the time. Every morning and night." You: "He admitted it! No shame."

"Yes, I liked to drink. When I drank I was mostly in control of myself." You: "Fucking liar!"

As a non-rapist drunk I also find this entire line of bullshit kind of offensive. I don't know if the implication is supposed to be "this is what drunk men do" or what even, but if it is then anyone who believes that can promptly go fuck themselves, no need for me to rape you.

They can. By the way, this was in the first link I posted saying the investigation was starting. It was known this was going to be the agreement the entire time. I think Rivera has asked for an FBI investigation, no idea about Julie.

This.

If we find out Ford is the one lying I hope they play "You're my hero" montages from the hearing until the end of time.

 

There's one simple thing the FBI can do in their investigation. Ask Dr Ford to draw a floor plan of the house this happened in (I realize she probably didn't see the whole house, but she at least saw the living room, a bedroom, a stairwell, and the location of a bath room) and compare it to the house all the people she listed as being present were living in at the time. My money would be on it not matching. Which would leave the person whose name she can't recall.

She very well may have been sexually assaulted, but not by Kavanaugh. My guess would be it would've been the person she can't recall and Judge was indeed there. Years later when she pieced a repressed memory together she recalled Judge being there and immediately linked Kavanaugh because, according to reports, they were "Joined at the hip" back then.

If Kavanaugh did assault her, fuck him. Hang him. I don't care.

As far as the other allegations....still no corroborating statements on those either, even though those accusations supposedly happened in full view of multiple people.

So basically we're still at "He said, She said" on all the accusations. You would think that with all the exposure the case has received at least one person would come forward. Oh wait. One did...and quickly Homer Simpsoned back into the bushes.

This whole thing has been a stall tactic and completely fucked over two people (And their families) lives. That's what pisses me off. It's just fucking evil.

 

Do you think he has never blacked out before?

 

I don't know Gravy. Even I remember things from my 'black out' nights. Is that he got drunk without blacking out more or less believable than Ford lying or identifying the wrong person? Her memory does seem infallible... hmmm...

But this line of reasoning that leads people to "therefore he is guilty" is really fucking awful. And you have no idea what he was like when drinking. It blows my mind the way you moralize while posting shit like this.

The whole focus of this case is just on seeing someone ruined, and praying that they are. This political climate really brings out the worst in people. Forget that a lot of the logic and theorizing is stupid. It's just really fucking sad. I am so not looking forward to the celebrating, whichever way this shakes out.

 

I'm not saying "he lied about drinking, therefore he is guilty of sexual assault," but I am saying that he lied about drinking, therefore he lied in a Senate confirmation hearing. That alone is disqualifying. When it comes to the sexual assault, outside of the testimony of a woman saying he did it, and the testimony of a man saying he didn't, the only other real piece of information we have is that he lied about other things during his testimony. Is that enough to convict him of a criminal offense? No. Is that enough to vote him down? Absolutely.

 

Jesus tapdancing christ. It's a simple question to answer, but props for the deflection.

I'm not even dealing with Dr. Ford's allegations. I'm just dealing with whether he is a lying about this or not. But if you think that it's more likely that Dr. Ford is lying and concocted all of this than it is to believe that a hard partying teenager blacked out a minimum of one time then more power to you.

 

I'm not sure how any reasonable person can watch Kavanaugh deflecting, interrupting, insulting people, going crazy, and in general just acting like a child during that hearing and not believe that at minimum he is emotionally unfit to serve on the Supreme Court.

Just think about how he behaved. That's what you think is appropriate for a Supreme Court Justice?

 

That’s my stance. Regardless of his guilt or innocence, he punched his ticket back to the minor leagues with that ridiculously condescending performance. I remember the Thomas hearing vaguely. He was cool as a cucumber while questioned, not a spoiled kid acting like his cruel big brother is dangling an ice cream cone just out of his reach. And the Anita Hill accusation was HUGE. The biggest news story of its year, probably.

If you were innocent, nothing to hide, nothing to worry about, you would be cool. Logical. You could answer everything truthfully. There’s no “performance” needed. He handled that hearing with the smooth precision of a prison riot.