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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Juice

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    Anyone have interesting ballot questions in their state?

    Mine are the following:

    1) Whether the state can impose fines on hospitals that violate nurse-per-patient quotas.

    2) Whether a commission should be formed to proposed an amendment to overturn Citizens United.

    3) Whether a law preventing discrimination of transgender people in bathrooms/public spaces should be overturned.

    Out of the three, #1 is by far the most contentious around here. Half the officials up for election are running unopposed. For my Congressman, I have a choice between Patrick Kennedy and a miscellaneous write-in. Elizabeth Warren isn’t losing and neither is our governor.

    We voted to legalize recreational weed 2 years ago. The dispensaries have yet to open...
     
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    We have several, most of which have questions crafted in such a way that they don't full explain what the actual implications are. (Something like: "Should the law protect senior citizens, who are poor, frail and helpless?" when, the actual law is "everyone under the age of 45 will be taxed an additional $10,000 per year to create a vacation fund for old people" or something goofy.)

    One of the "ordinary" ones is this, how it reads on the ballot:
    “Shall the Constitution of Georgia be amended so as to provide certain rights to victims against whom a crime has allegedly been perpetrated and allow victims to assert such rights?”
    Provides rights for victims of crime in the judicial process. Senate Resolution No. 146 Resolution Act No. 467 Ga. L. 2018, p. 1139

    What it would do, according to the AJC:
    Georgia law already provides for notification of crimes victims on hearings and other proceedings in their cases. But advocates hope by making this part of the state constitution, the protections will have more weight. The proposal also would give the victim the right to demand a court hearing if he or she feels proper notice has not been given about developments in the case. This proposed amendment, known as Marsy’s law, mirrors legislation passed in several states and being pushed in others.

    All of which is fine to propose - I have no idea how necessary it is. But, this ad keeps running

    I didn't realize until the other day, that he's done spots like this in a number of states, and it's called Marsy's law in them, too - first passed as such in California in 2008.
     
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    We've got that one too. On the surface it sounds fine, but when you look at the rebuttal...it says that the bill is written so poorly and the scope of who a "Victim" is is so broad, that it would be an enormous legal cluster fuck that not only would cost millions to implement, but then it would takes years and millions more to unfuck it. I still need to read a bit more on the whole thing.

    When I lived in Idaho we voted in the lottery. The problem was that the highest population is in the southern part of the state which may as well just be North Utah. They decided that us sinners didn't know what was good for ourselves and blocked it for years. It finally got passed as a law when the folks in north Idaho collected 1M losing Washington state lottery tickets and sent them to Boise. That got their attention.
     
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    Greetings fellow Masshole!

    Honestly, for being the birthplace of the American Revolution we're pretty fucking domesticated. We voted this shit in years ago and they're still deciding on this or that "cannabis commission" to figure out how to best safely enact it. How about, just get the fuck out of the way? Dealers and buyers sorted this shit out forever ago. I don't even use the stuff but this puritan incompetence pisses me off.
     
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    Its really Maura Healy's fault. She's an attorney general that acts like a judge, and decides which laws should and should not be implemented and in what way. She did the same exact thing with firearms, making up arbitrary rules as she went along because her NIMBY donors told her so. I dont even really give a shit about weed, its just the principle of how its being carried out thats maddening.
     
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    Damn...Soros, Obama, the Clintons....and now CNN's New York Bureau....all have received possibly explosive packages in the past 24 hours. This crap needs to stop.

    EDIT: And they just intercepted one at the White House.
     
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    The WH too, I just read. They couldn't spare one for the Capitol?
     
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    I'm sure people are speculating that they were all fake bombs sent by Democrats to try and flip hatred to the crazy Republicans and get out the vote; but, if you're dumb enough to think you could get a bomb to Obama, you're probably dumb enough to not know how to make it detonate.

    Besides, maybe a teenager was just mailing Obama another alarm clock.
     
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    Now CNN is reporting that the WH didn't get a possible explosive.

    But there is this just reported:

    The Sunrise, Florida, office of Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz has been evacuated after a suspicious package was found mailed there this morning, according to Officer Chris Piper, a spokesman for the police department.
     
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    One to Kamala Harris and Eric Holder as well. One was sent to Wasserman-Schultz because that was the return address put on it from the one to Harris I think.
     
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    So, not being intimately familiar with your politicians... is it a safe bet to assume that those are all non-Republicans who got the special deliveries?
     
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    Yep all democrats plus the liberal counterpart fo the Koch Brothers.
     
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    The Violent Left is just out of control, I tell you.
     
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    More seriously, looks like the 90s militias are coming back. Goodie.
     
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    Odd that Schultz would get a bomb, her corrupt stupidity basically handed Trump the election. Maybe its a disgruntled democrat.
     
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    Not just non-Republicans, these are the "boogiemen" figures that the conservative media has harped on.
    • Obama - former President of the United States; former US Senator from Illinois
    • Clinton - former Democratic candidate for President of the United States; former Secretary of State; former US Senator from New York
    • Eric Holder - former Attorney General of the United States
    • Kamala Harris - current US Senator from California; one of the presumptive frontrunners for the Democratic nomination for President in 2020
    • Debbie Wasserman-Schultz - current US Representative from Florida's 20th District; former chair of the Democratic National Committee
    • George Soros - Investor/Hedge fund manager; former Hungarian Jew under nazi occupation; big time donor for liberal causes
    • John Brennan - Former CIA director
    • Maxine Waters - current US Representative from California's 43rd District
    Wasserman-Schultz is the real giveaway here. She receives hatred far outsized to her actual power or influence because she is "of Clinton."
     
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    Add Maxine Waters to the list.
     
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    Nothing suspicious in the packages left for Kamala Harris.

    In fact, it sounds like someone's garbage:

    "The office building was evacuated as a precaution as authorities investigated the packages in San Diego but police Lt. Kevin Wadhams said they contained a shoe, a hat, two children’s books, a football and an empty bag of potato chips.

    The Union-Tribune reported that employees who work in the building were evacuated shortly before 9 a.m. after a police lieutenant reported that the boxes were seen on or near a trash can."
     
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    These mail bombs are no joke. Reports saying there was a sulfur substance found in all of them, and they appear to be made by the same person or group of people. And from the pictures I've seen of the ones recovered, they appear quite sophisticated.

    Given the targets, do y'all think it could be some right wing crazy who took trump's words as instruction?