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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Nettdata

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    I'm kind of making the inference that anything mailed is delayed ignition... as in you're sending it off and it won't blow up until it's opened, hours/days later, well out of your sight or proximity. As opposed to lighting the fuse and running or flipping a switch on an ignitor while you're standing right there. Even something like pulling the pin on a grenade when opening the letter, or having a spring mechanism pop when removed from the constraints of the envelope I would consider to be "delayed".

    Totally my label.
     
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    Looks like they have someone in custody. That was quick.
     
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    Tim McVeigh was a redneck with military explosives training.
     
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    Because of course it was in Florida.
     
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    The suspect's Van O' Memes:

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    “Top Youth Soccer Recruits for Trump.”

    Wow. And apparently this guy is a Native American strip club owner. What an odd development.

    Someone’s going be getting the 5-Star accommodations at ADX Florence.
     
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    Now he may be a Filipino larping as a Native American. Or maybe he's Native larping as Filipino. This story just keeps getting weirder.

    "On his LinkedIn page, Sayoc says that his grandfather, Col. Baltazar Zook Sayoc, was a martial arts practitioner who developed his own style of fighting, Sayoc Kali. Sayoc says that style was used to fight the Communist Party of the Philippines."

    Oh wow...apparently the spellings on the envelopes weren't messed up to throw people off his trail. He really is that dumb.

    "Career decision of becoming a Horse Doctor was always a love for animals, which were here first and never do anything to anyone. And respect all living things. My family very sound Sayoc name in Medical field Grandfather Col. Baltazar Zook Sayoc that perfect the conversion oriental eye to Americanize. The first plastic surgeon to be observed by 8 million people in NY city Hospital. He over through Communist Philippines liberated island. He built all hospitals in Philippines islands and sets standards highest level. Most surgeon use his instruments which are patented. And a lot surgeon use today. Also Sayoc intl. schools marshals arts Kali that used to over throw communist party . Also one 5 Hero’s disciplinary my mother Madeline Sayoc Giardiello First president Pharmacy Cosmetic Association, Who Who Business Women of Year, Soul buyer consultant for Home Shopping Network, head number 1 marketing consul in World Aventura Marketing consul, up for city counsel women Aventura.”
     
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    Yeah this is has me going back to when nett asked me what I knew about explosives.

    You mean.... making bombs accidentally? We're really good at controlled explosives. If you loosely define the "controlled" part to the extent that we had control over how we started it, it just got outta control real quick and we didn't expect it to get that big
     
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    That article is awesome:

    According to reports he was also recently kicked out of his parents' house and was living in his van. No reports on if it was down by the river.
     
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    Dudes a fucking narnar. Low enough IQ to be readily radicalized and told what to do. He’s a few points shy of the folks you see at the rallies. But low enough that he might not be competent to stand trial. I guaranfuckingtee you his lawyer argues mental defect and sends him to a special home.
     
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    Oddly enough the news (well, CNN anyway) keeps showing videos of him at various trump rallies.

    Regarding mentally incompetent to stand trial, in law school we were taught that that affirmative defense rarely works. I forget the percentage, but it's in the single digits in terms of how often it is granted vs. how often it is argued. Also, being deemed mentally incompetent to stand trial is a fate worse than prison. They basically send you to a looney bin where they drug you up and run you through a gamut of doctors in order to try to get you to a point where you are mentally competent to stand trial. And if you never get to that point, then you just stay there, where your daily routine would make your everyday prisoner feel bad at your lack of freedom.

    I hope justice is served to the extent that the victims of these crimes feel safe and satisfied with the extent of the punishment. Beyond that, I don't care. Either this piece of shit goes to prison where he rots, or he goes to a mental institution where he rots.
     
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    Expect more violence.
     
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    Meh the press and the left will screech from the mountaintops and they'll feel validated in their fear mongering because their own were "targeted" by the "opposition". The Republicans pulled the same shit after Steve Scalise got shot last year. Just another lone wolf nutter with mental issues. Nothing to get in a tizzy about.
     
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    Did anyone else notice that the guy from Utah that mailed some variant of Ricin to Trump and others a few weeks ago kind of got swept under the carpet?

    As far as the bombs....I wonder if these things could've actually went off. They were also made of PVC. I'm no bomb expert, but I always thought pipe bombs were traditionally made with cast iron pipe so the shrapnel would actually do real damage. What was the supposed triggering device on these bombs? I don't know how true it is, but I saw some infographic where some autist traced down the clock shown on one of the bombs and it didn't have an alarm feature. That would've made it useless as a timing device trigger. Also the supposed scans of the bombs don't show any way for the wires to complete a circuit to trigger an explosion.

    Either way, real or fake bombs, this dude needs to never taste freedom ever again. He's obviously mentally deficient and should not be walking around with the rest of us.
     
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    Probably because his motive doesn't line up with any particular political grievance. He was demoted twice before being kicked out of the Navy, and targeted the higher ups in the chain of command (Chief of Naval Operations, Secretary of Defense, Commander in Chief, etc). Ground castor beans are also as likely to poison someone as unworked steel is to stab them. He was registered as a Democrat in 2004, but as a Republican in 2017, so no political motive seems apparent. Unless there's a political movement dangerously stoking the grievances of sailors that I'm unaware of, it looks like this was an isolated thing, undermined by his own incompetence, and is being dealt with by the legal system.
     
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    So he was a lone wolf with mental issues and a personal vendetta and not at all associated with the #resist crowd?

    Do you think it's possible that this bomber that sent non working bombs to Democrats is possibly a lone wolf with mental issues and not in any way associated with the majority of people that hold a political view somewhat right of socialism?

    My point is...neither of these acts should be tolerated in our society. At. All.

    They should put both these assholes in a cage and let them fight to the death. And then kill the one left standing. We don't need their bullshit in our society.
     
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    I mean dude was 100% on the MAGA train and practically took his hit list off of Trump's twitter, so no, I don't think it's fair to say he is totally unconnected.
     
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    Are you telling me that you can't even entertain the thought that this guy doesn't represent people with a different political perspective from your own?
     
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    Do I think every Trump supporter is like him? No, of course not. Do I think Trump can disavow him as if Trump and his political movement had absolutely nothing to do with radicalizing this man and provoking him to action? Also no, of course not.
     
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    As I stated after the 2016 election, Trump and his BS rhetoric is not what caused me to vote for Trump. I've never liked the guy. I wasn't even going to vote because I hated both choices....I was absolutely disgusted by the choices that were presented.

    But then I saw people physically assaulting others for simply going to listen to a politician speak. Again and again and again. Then I saw people chanting "This is what democracy looks like" as they destroyed property and assaulted people who had differing political opinions from theirs. All I could think is "That's not democracy." They screamed "Nazis" about the people they disagreed with and proceeded to act like Nazi's by violently trying to silence any voice they disagreed with.

    You and I may not agree fundamentally on the role of government in our country, but I would hope we can agree that we shouldn't be physically attacking people we disagree with. That should not be tolerated.