And they are also being vilified as a political scare tactic. Anyone saying otherwise is being intellectually dishonest.
The fact that many in your country perceive this it as a threat, and that it’s somehow being minupulated by Soros is what I can’t believe. “THIS IS AN INVASION!!!” They are in southern Mexico. On foot. What is it an invasion of, south-central Mexico? I can’t believe people are that fucking stupid. That’s what’s hard to believe.
If you can get people to be scared, you can win an election. You have a ton of fucking people who have never in their lives met a Mexican person or someone from central or South America. Turn them into drug dealing gang members or make them fear that their neighborhood might turn a little less white. Potentially lower their property values. You should hear the shit my neighbors say about “keeping the neighborhood nice” and suggesting potentially illegal practices to screen out potential renters for available homes. The code words they use with each other are completely obvious. These people are terrified of brown people. The GOP knows this.
I wonder how much of it has to do with population size. 5,000 people to someone who lives in a rural area sounds like a ton. To someone who lives in an urban area it sounds like a small fraction of the number of drunks who spill out of the local stadium every night and wander through their neighborhood before finding the train.
It's really hard to support either side on immigration at the moment. I'm mostly pro immigration so I can't support the crazy shit the GOP says, but the left's stance on immigration is just so unrealistic. I don't see why a path to citizenship needs to be so convoluted and complicated, but there needs to be some kind of regulation. Letting in anyone who is less fortunate and wants to come over is nice and all, but it's not sustainable over the long run. And while I certainly think the GOP is way over the top I don't necessarily think they're wrong that influxes of poor immigrants do bring down wages for the lower class. I mean, American companies have been doing this since the country was founded. Union workers want a raise? Bring in some immigrants. Not exactly a new concept.
I understand your perspective that immigration policy should be reasonable. I’m making more of a comment on how they are basically turned into animals to drum up fear to cough up some more votes. Vilifying immigrants is as old as time though.
It’s a fucking Panthera concert. Which, by the way, was way more fucking dangerous to be in and never scared me in the least.
Oh, we still do plenty of both. Half of my production staff in Willmar was from Somalia and about 80% in Milwaukee was from Bangladesh. I can promise that isn't because "can be trained to operate a forklift" was such an impossible skill requirement to fill locally.
It’s more that it’s five times that a month every month for the past 30 years and you have 10 million illegals in the country.
So what you're saying is that this is nothing new and has proven over several decades that it will not make our country implode? Interesting. It's worth remembering a few things about immigration and immigration reform. 1. The biggest obstacle to passing anything has been House Republicans. 2 House Republicans include guys like Steve King. Steve King is a racist white nationalist who will not apologize for retweeting literal nazis. He has also said that America needs more white babies to be born. The dude is fucked up. And he isnt some random ass house member. Ted Cruz chose him as his national campaign co-chairman. I don't see how anyone can look at the Republican party and see that their positions and attitudes towards immigration are based more on racism and ethnonationalism than any sort of economic reasoning. Rational arguments are a very far second to racist horseshit. Donald Trump isn't trying to convince anyone about lowered wages. He is trying to convince people rapists are coming across the border.
Right. As opposed to the noble, high-minded argument of, "But who will be our gardeners, janitors or [insert poor, unskilled labor]?!" The Democrats only care about illegals insofar as they care about who they vote for, which is why they promise them amnesty/citizenship, entitlements, making sure they arent offended by the term "illegals, " etc. Otherwise, whats the argument for not wanting to enforce immigration law and national sovereignty? Every other nation on earth manages to not have an issue with it. Every major Democrat was on board with strong border security 20 years ago. Now all of a sudden its an problem. Its an attempt at a voter drive for electoral majority. Nothing more, nothing less.
Trump announced his intention to unconstitutionally order the 14th amendment overturned by executive order. Don't pretend like Republicans give one flying fuck about the law.
But in fairness, immigration has only been a problem for the last 30-50 years, whereas climate change has been going on for millions of years.
I think that clause granting birthright citizen ship should be re-examined by Congress. It was written with former slaves in mind who were not getting enfranchisement at all levels of government. Not that every foreigner who plopped out a kid within our borders gets a piece of the pie. The notion of anything actually getting done is none to none.
"Accepting that they can't do something because they don't have the votes to do it legally" isn't the Republican way.
Or you can just import foreigners with no real will to be part of this country and get them hooked on the government teat to keep your voter rolls puffed up.
Most Hispanic immigrants I've met have more will to be part of this country than any Republican I've ever met.