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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Crown Royal

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    Just call me Topher

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    What a blathering, lying coward. Own your statement, fuckhead. You actually DO have to answer for being stupid.

    PS: didn’t this incident happen quite a while ago?
     
  2. Nettdata

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    Yeah, it was many months ago... shortly after Trump was elected I think.
     
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    So I know this thread it supposed to be about respectful opinions and acknowledging the right to believe on the other side of the aisle.... but at what point can we start just straight up mocking him???

    It’s beyond obsurd, and I think anyone with a rational mind would agree. I’m just wanting to grab my popcorn and see where this goes.
     
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    Trump? Haven't we been mocking him all along, deservedly so? Gotta give respect to get it, and so far he's earned none, title be damned.

    EDIT: by all means let us continue to address each other with respect and maturity, I don't believe we have any cultists here who cannot respond to facts and reason. But as far as Dear Leader is concerned, should be no holds barred until he deserves better.
     
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    I’d only faintly remember hearing about it months ago. They way he looks back at the press aid as if to say “Why am I being questioned by those who are below me?” says it all.

    The fucking arrogance of that guy. He alone represents an entire country, that is monstrously embarrassing.
     
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    No, what’s embarrassing is that a little less than half the country voted for this guy. Granted, Clinton wasn’t a great alternative, but everyone knew where trump was going. His presidency is not full of surprises. We knew he’d be like this back in the primaries.

    And yet a little less than half the country saw him be like that and thought “yup, that’s our guy!!!” That’s what’s embarrassing. It’s not just trump’s behavior, it is the behavior of our neighbors, family and friends in voting for him. That they wanted a racist, mysogonystic, nationalist who declares the media the enemy and divides our country, to be the person who represents us.... that’s what’s embarrassing.
     
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    The division in our country was happening long before the spray-tanned orange came along. Granted, he is only making things worse.

    Maybe, just maybe our political parties can learn from their mistake and give us viable candidates in the future. That may be too much to hope for though.
     
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    I've long said that the biggest thing Trump has given your political movements was such a sense of despair and loathing in some of the population that it's compelling a number of smart, typically non-political people to rise up and run for office. More scientists than ever have turned to politics as a result of the climate change and EPA shit show that is going on under this particular administration.

    It's kind of made people realize that "career politician" is usually a bad thing.
     
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    I'm reading Fifth Risk by Michael Lewis (of Moneyball, The Big Short, Liar's Poker fame) and it details this kind of thing. The Trump administration's incompetence and active hostility towards the DOE and USDA in particular are egregious and the book is a genuinely terrifying read once Lewis explains the full purpose and responsibilities of these agencies.
     
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    Exactly. I really think people have no real clue about just how fucked that has become.

    The fact that things like laws/etc put in place to help prevent the Deep Water Horizon incident are now being run by an Oil Industry Lobbyist, and those rules are being gutted to allow cheaper and more drilling by Oil Companies, is fucking insane.

    People tend to rail on the EPA as some sort of hippy vegan do-gooder kind of thing, but in reality, it's one of the few things stopping (more like putting up any kind of resistance at all) big business from just fucking the planet sideways.
     
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    It's not just the visible regulatory capture, but just how much of the fabric of much of American life is supported by these agencies in ways the people don't realize, and Republicans are actively hostile to. Without the USDA, large swaths of rural America would be virtually uninhabitable: no power, no hospitals, no banking or investment resources, minimal transportation and excessively expensive food. And the amount of national security work the DOE does just by virtue of how critical our energy infrastructure is is astounding. These agencies have incredibly important missions, and the Trump team didn't even send people over to learn about them for months, much less send experts to run them.
     
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    That’s the big problem with this newest fuckery. This effects the entire planet, not just your country.

    For the sake of the world I’m starting to think we should invade, and remove him from power the way you guys always do it. Or people down there have to stop sitting there and taking this anti-intellectual horseshit.
     
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    About as sure as we are that this isn't a satire presidency.
     
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    Is there anything the Trump group hasn't accused someone of, that they're not guilty of themselves? Serious question.
     
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    No
     
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    Not being a Trump sympathizer here, but doesn’t that work both ways?

    I’m sure Trump is guilty of laundering and tax evasion. If Mueller was investigating Clinton would they not find similar crimes?
     
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    The Stock Act is legal, unfortunately.

    But if we’re going to move past bipartisan politics, we need to differentiate one from another.