I feel like we could go back and forth on this forever. I think Trump has entered the Tyson zone of politicians in that he's such a fuck up in general people just fill in the blanks with either the most insane, or worst thing they can come up with and figure it'll be right more often than not. There's no doubt he's corrupt. If his opposition had dug into his tax evasion as fervently as they have the Russia connection he might have already been impeached by now. Which is one of the conundrums of the case. It has to involve so many people, but at the same time can't. Sure, you can get Kushner a loan in the scenario of the blockade with a limited number of decision makers, but for the Russian conspiracy theories to pan out the number of people it would have to involve risking political suicide or worse is staggering. What benefits would outweigh the risks? It's one thing if you're Putin and lack a domestic threat, who might be incentivized to gamble even if further international sanctions weaken his position. It's different if you're from a weaker nation that has more to fear (and more to lose) from later American retaliation, or if you're an American yourself. Power and money are nice. Less so when you have to risk losing all of it and the parties you have to work with aren't short on idiots. The end result might be a lot more mundane than Trump and Putin backdooring a deal to carve up eastern Europe or the middle east. Isn't that how malfeasance usually goes? It's just politicians stuffing their pockets.
Dude. Stop. Stop hedging your bets. Stop buhwuddabouding. Stop shaking your head. Just. Fucking. Stop. This isn’t however fucking many years of Benghazi and buttery males. This isn’t wasted hours in open and closed door aggressive, hostile questioning to end up with...nothing. This isn’t some made up bullshit. Federal courts are handling major, historical, potentially pivoting the course of history crimes based on the buildup to 2016 and what’s happened since. People are pleading guilty to crimes we only thought possible by some movie super villain. The things coming to light as mueller brings things to their filings are fucking horrific. And every fucking arrow points to Trump and his lackeys participating willingly. As to what taxpayers are “entitled” to: If ANY of that redacted information would damage national security, expose sources, or in any way compromise the methods used by the intelligence community to intercept, analyze, and act on data - the American people are absolutely NOT entitled to see it. Not in the current climate and certainly not in any near future. I’m going to put you back on ignore after I post this, but fuckin a dude. I think I started ignoring this willful, deliberately obtuse, absolutely manic denial you’ve maintained back in like 2016. So two years. Two years everything has been moving toward confirming Trump and his direct involvement in internationally holy fucking shit bad stuff. Two solid years. And that’s just public information. That’s the confirmed court filings, collected evidence, FOIA available data. That train has never slowed. Never rocked. It’s never careened off the rails. At some point you have to realize how utterly ridiculous continued denial and buhwuddabouding is. At least, sweet fucking Jesus I hope so.
You do understand that willful or blind ignorance is in fact a legal term used to describe what Rotn is getting at? http://law.bepress.com/usclwps-lss/108/
You do understand that willful or blind ignorance is in fact a an actual legal term? http://law.bepress.com/usclwps-lss/108/
Yes, I've heard of it. I didn't immediately see ROTN's post as a reference to the law itself. Probably because in the context of what he quoted it doesn't make any sense. Assange and Manafort meeting wouldn't have anything to do with willful ignorance. If the idea was that because I wanted to see evidence before being certain Trump was guilty of collusion I'm therefore at fault in his crimes, that's really stupid. I don't know what else to tell you. Particularly from a quote about wanting to see the evidence of the crimes. Are we just posting vague bullshit now?
Anyone have more insight into the reported election fraud in NC? It's getting serious enough now that the dem candidate has retracted his concession speech and there's discussion about holding a new election. I just can't believe that in 2018 something like this would, or even could happen! But then again, I never imagined that another country could never mind would interfere with our elections either....
NC politics are pretty fucked up, this really doesn’t surprise me. They’ve gerrymandered the state so badly that the republicans don’t really need even half of the vote to win in some cases. Old white people and racists are so scared here that the Asheville/Charlotte area and the multiple college towns to the east will let the gays and trans people run wild in the bathrooms if they get elected. So they draw the maps explicitly for republican wins, there is a quote from one of the politicians who drew them up, he readily admits to drawing them in a way that only helps his party. Supposedly they are getting redrawn in 2020 by a bi partision panel, AFTER the elections of course, so the republicans get one more election with the fucked up maps. Until the Christian leadership stands up to the Republican Party, not much is gonna change down here, at least in my opinion.
The district lines in NC have been found unconstitutional since 2011. They just keep redrawing new lines that are just as unconstitutional and the court doesn't have the balls to impose lines themselves. In North Carolina's case the court should do what Pennsylvania did and impose its own district lines and then tell the legislature to go fuck itself. North Carolina is slightly different from Pennsylvania because Pennsylvania's map was declared unconstitutional by the State Supreme Court under the state's own constitution, whereas North Carolina's map was found unconstitutional by a Federal Court under the US Constitution.
And people in Texas feel their vote doesn't matter -- holy crap!!! Are there other states with these kinds of problems?
North Carolina is the worst, Wisconsin and Michigan aren't far behind. Pennsylvania was pretty bad before the court stepped in.
Today gon' be wild. Mueller questioned Kelly specifically on obstruction, Kelly might be out the door, Trump named his new AG, Tillerson said that Trump hates reading and would often try to order things done that were illegal, Trump went on an epic rage-tweet, and we haven't even gotten to the point in the day when Mueller drops the sentencing memos for Manafort and Cohen.
I think all the non-coastal-elites in this country should travel and visit New York City at least once in their lives. Not because I'm arrogant and elitist (though I am), but because once a tourist has been suckered by a New York City hustler running the three card monte on a stack of cardboard boxes, they'll never again fall for a conman who runs the same. game. every. single. fucking. time.
Just saw that he actually said that. I thought it was a joke. Remember how much he loved tillerson when he first hired him?
Well, Cohen is fucked. And of course Trump is implicated in the elections fraud, which is a serious felony. Here's the full filing.
Fortunetly for him, nobody is safer in jail than a lawyer. They are treated better than the “Guy Who can Get You Shit”.
Interesting distinction. SDNY recommended not much leniency for Cohen, but the OSC said that his help was significant. What it looks like is that Mueller caught Cohen in a lie, after which he gave the special counsel everything he had, which he had previously withheld from the Southern District of New York. It is also important to note that the SDNY has declared, openly in court, that they believe the President committed a felony.
We're not even close to done. The Judge requested redactions in the Manfort sentencing memo, which means there's plenty of juice there, the Congress that gives Democrats subpoena power hasn't even been seated yet, and Trump still technically has two years left on his term. Buckle up, this is the part where things start moving fast and the weird turn pro.
It’s a pretty genius level of coordination in how they wrote their memos. The special counsel which is arguably the more politically dangerous person is the one saying he twerked for him really hard and really good. The southern district is like “nah, fuck him.” The mueller report spells for worse trouble down the line. The sdny just means jail time.