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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Revengeofthenerds

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    Well they were fucked otherwise, no? My understanding is they were basically backed into a corner, like tell us everything or we're charging you with this bigass goodie bag of crap and here's all our evidence to back it up.
     
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    Where to put those goalposts now...
     
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    As the bleeding continues, you will get to see just how many people in Trump’s orbit have been nothing but shameless opportunists who will never go to jail for him as long as they can avoid it.

    They get brought in by a prosecutor who lays out all the shit they have them. They ask for help. The subject then asks if they can avoid going to jail at all. They either said yes or “no, but I will allow you see your kids grow up.”

    You think if they are presented with damning evidence they will take a bullet for the Donald?
     
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    Dude they lit the goalposts on fire months ago.
     
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    I don't think there's a person alive - including his wife or kids - who puts his well-being above their own.

    It's laughable how Mueller et. al. are the ones actually draining the swamp and locking people up.
     
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    It’s been almost 18 Moochless months in the White House. Eleven days on the job and he made a better impression than anybody to me.
     
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    It seems Newt Gingrich wants the job. I wholeheartedly endorse him for the job. Let all who wish to further light whatever remnants of their reputations on fire be part of the sinking ship.
     
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    My worry is that Gingrich has no reputation left to burn. He'll go down as the genesis of our modern congressional dysfunction, surpassed only in infamy by Mitch McConnell who took it to unprecedented levels.
     
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    I have a feeling the Democrats are going to be left with the biggest set of collective blue balls on planet Earth. If he doesn't get indicted until hes out of office and gets re-elected, he will have ridden out the statute of limitations. Perhaps the Republican's will go for a primary challenge and end up inevitably splitting the ticket, but I dont see the Senate removing anyone from office.
     
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    If Trump gets reelected just cancel America. It would be an insult to irony to continue it.
     
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    He currently has a 48% approval rating, which is the same as Obama had at the same point in his presidency. People just dont care.
     
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    538 has him at 42% aggregate. We're also still at the point where the SDNY stuff and Mueller's likely path are province of political wonks who follow this stuff as a hobby. When Mueller's final report is issued and the Democrats start hammering on it in the media, that would be when I expect to see the public reaction. Nixon had decent approval ratings until close to the end as well.
     
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    Gas is less than $2, employment is up, every day the news is filled with why Trump is going down (literally, every day since before he was elected), etc. People aren't fired up enough to care.

    I could not disagree with this more. Not because I like Trump, but because neither he, nor any politician who has been or ever will be, is America by themselves. Not Roosevelt with the New Deal, not Reagan with his immense popularity during his presidency. America is and always will be its people. They have the resiliency to overcome the Great Depression, The Great War, and The Great Orange-face Dingbat, too. I don't attach my happiness to whoever sits in the White House when it's someone I voted for (that hasn't happened in a long time) or my unhappiness when it's someone I didn't, and I believe in America because of her people - my friends, my neighbors, civil discussions on an Idiot Board, and stories of triumph and joy DESPITE Dingbats or criminals in the White House. America wasn't canceled for Watergate or impeachments or 9-11 or any other relatively recent turmoil and it's not going to be canceled now.
     
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    That's exactly my point. If the people see fit to re-elect Trump, the experiment in democracy is over, and the results of the experiment are "people are too fucking dumb for democracy to work." There will be no "but Hillary" or "he'll pivot" or "We didn't know he was a complete fucking moron and a criminal" excuse in 2020 like there was in 2016. If America reelects Trump, the American people are too stupid to rule themselves.
     
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    And the overload of inane histrionics like this is why no one cares when they should.
     
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    Trump supporters always have an excuse as to why someone else made them act they way they do. They had to vote for Trump because Hillary called them deplorables. They had to not care about the country because other people care too much. It's tiresome and I don't buy it. Elections matter, and fucking up elections matters.

    The man himself said there would be an armed revolt if he were impeached in a completely legal proceeding, but no, it's everyone else that's dealing in inane histrionics.