The politicians are partially controlling the news and we're feeding into it because we want to be pissed off about everything and convince ourselves we're better than everyone we disagree with. Maybe the politicians only have a light hand in the media control that is really only relevant to their campaign, but I look at Brazile being moved straight to the DNC and who knows... The media is part of the problem and they need to go back to doing their job. We need objective reporting, not this constant maelstrom of tapping a demographic and making them feel special.
If I knew how to fix this shit I would be posting it. Obviously I don't. It could go on for a long time.
I'm just gonna stop you right here with one word. Proof? You said it yourself. The nation is divided. Media report: nation is divided. YOURE CONTROLLED BY THE POLITICIANS YOU HACKS! Report the news! And by news I mean the shit that makes ME feel good! MEEE!
It drives me crazy to still see all this partisan BS. Ok, so you're candidate didn't win. Congrats, you're welcome to disagree with him, but it doesn't mean outrage and rioting and crap. I'm an American first. I'm also a libertarian, an atheist, a proud Texan, several different labels, but it's infuriating how many people forget that it is our job to respect the President, and that nothing good will come if all we do is undermine him at every turn (we tried that with Obama, and shit didn't get done remember?). I would have rather Clinton won, clearly. But I'm glad that there's a GOP House and Senate to support Trump. I'm sure he will probably do some things that I don't like. I'm equally sure he'll do some stuff I do like. For certain he'll be entertaining. America has a system of checks and balances for a reason, and more often than not it works. Some stuff falls through the cracks, but there's a reason everyone wants to live here (and Canada, especially right now). I'm excited to see what the new administration brings. I wish it was one run by Clinton, but wish in one hand and shit in the other and see which one fills up faster. I'm just sick of everyone arguing. Trump is the new President. And anyone who doesn't support him isn't doing the country any favors.
Keep it classy in here people. I have just lived through the worst, most divisive election in my lifetime. I'm sick of the name calling. I'm sick of the slinging. Keep it on point, and reasoned dissent is always welcome. If you can't do that, then I'll introduce you to my size 11 e-foot as it goes in your e-ass. Just don't complain about the taste, but by all means, complain to Nett. You've been reminded. There will be no further warnings from me.
Listen up... I get that you're pissed with the election and with each other, but keep your cool around here. Be passionate, but keep your shit together or you'll take a break. I've already been asked to shut this thread down because "nothing good will come of this", but I believe that this place could be used to help people deal with the election results, and maybe, JUST FUCKING MAYBE, start that "we've got to come together" kind of discussion that we all seem to be wanting but never want to actually engage in. So yeah, D26 probably hit "post reply" before his brain caught up with him, but take his (day-long) sacrifice to heart and learn from it. Because that was just a warning shot.... other action after this will be much more severe. Tread carefully.
It is pretty funny expecting everyone to embrace Trump as President when he spent a good number of years propagating the lie that Obama wasn't a citizen and therefore not a legitimate president. We are expecting the American people to behave better than the guy we just elected.
Ok. Where to start. 1. Republicans have had control for 6 years, not 8. 2. I said Trump likely wouldn't specifically go after Roe v. Wade and that it was a campaign promise, the response was that the Senate and House wouldn't approve otherwise. News for you: That is two different things. I am saying to you Trump is more liberal than you would like to believe and you are talking about the legistlative body. So, if somone Trump nominates and doesn't get approved of for being 'too liberal', will you then side with Trump? 3.Voter ID laws and the DMV is a state-level issue that Trump won't have an effect on. 4. Most of these arguments are saying that his party will do X, Y or Z. Not him. There is a difference here. They held the house and senate before and didn't go after the protected classes. Besides, I default to my previous statement, the people in for the biggest surprise are going to be conservatives as to how liberal Trump really is. 5. Saying Trump will go after the media through a lawsuit in court is a lot different than saying Trump is going to use the full force of the government to go after the media. If he sues them then so fucking what? They get sued everyday by people as it is. Separately, the question of violation of FAR clauses was brought up by Misanthropic: https://www.oig.dhs.gov/assets/Mgmt/OIG_12-05_Nov11.pdf This report is 5 years old. They had already spent $1.2B building walls, barriers and fences. This isn't a new concept. I do the same things, been to the same place as your company, it's out there
It's not about respecting the man, it's about respecting the office. You're talking about shit that was hurled directly at Obama, and yet he is transferring the office with aplomb, grace, and dignity. If he can deal with it, then anyone else should be able to as well.
I think about this stuff too. I think to myself, what can I - as a person who represents the left - offer up as a way to reach some compromise with the Right. Gun control immediately comes to mind. I'd certainly be willing to bring that to the bargaining table. But I can't help be left with the feeling that the Right would not offer something up in exchange. I don't think the Right cares in the slightest about healing any divide in the country - and since they now more or less control the government, why would they? As it stands right now, they've won.
I think people are reading into my posts and think I'm trying to act like I'm super fucking special myself. That's not my intention at all. I'm just trying to make sense of this cluster fuck that has become the new America.
You're reading too far into my post. I'm not saying they shouldn't. I'm just pointing out a little bit of absurdity.
What will be interesting is what (and who) makes it out of this. It's and understatement to say the election was polarizing. But you've also gotta get over it and move on. A graceful transition of power is as American as bald eagles shooting AR-15s with their dicks. Obama set a fantastic example in his speech today. I'm curious to see which politicians stick to their "never trump" guns and dig in even more (I'm looking at you Ted Cruz), and which ones use this as a learning opportunity and grow together and move forward (I'm hoping for y'all, Cory Booker and Marco Rubio). I don't think politics will get any worse and divisive than this. I think we hit our low point during this election as far as hating each other. The only place to go is up, and together.
No, I get where you're coming from... I just think we have to expect more from people... like being nice to each other, and respecting each other. I think a lot of it really is that simple... be more Mister Rogers, less bi-partisan extremist.
You say this, but your posts suggest that you believe you already have made sense of the new America: It's all the Left's fault. Through your posts you've made it abundantly clear that you think Hillary is corrupt, the DNC is corrupt, Democratic politicians are corrupt, and the left as a whole a fucked up and/or stupid. Of course to be honest myself, I've made no bones about the fact I believe 80% of this country's divide can be laid at the feet of the Right. But it really seems to me that you do think you have an idea of the cause of the clusterfuck.
I see no reason why Trump would nominate someone even remotely liberal. His base is literally drooling at the prospect of getting the most conservative justices they can possibly find, and Trump will throw them the red meat to maintain political capital to spend on things he actually cares about. The states are already going after these aggressively, and the biggest roadblocks (really the only roadblocks) they are finding are federal judges. Replace enough of those judges with Trump appointees (who will be in the mold of his Supreme Court picks for the rationale outlined above) and those protections will fall. They absolutely did go after protected classes, and the degree to which they were blocked was basically the degree to which Obama threatened the veto, and Obama's appointees in the judiciary held the line.
So why is only one side of the political spectrum held to this standard? As examples, Trump certainly wasn't being nice when he said all that awful shit about Mexicans, Muslims, etc. Pence certainly wasn't being nice when he enacted legislation in Indiana to legalize discrimination against gay people. Why do they get a free pass?
Dude. I am the left in my thinking. More or less. The right is a mix of bad ideas they refuse to let die, and some goods ones that get distorted into racism/misogyny/you name it. Trump was an unconventional candidate and he threw out some of their shitty ideas throughout his campaign, but they're not going away and the man is serious in believing the wall is going to fix our immigration problems. He needs to stop trolling everyone and start acting like a president, but it's Trump we're talking about here. He has his moments where he does well, but you never know when he's going to snap. I don't think he'll nuke anyone or start a pointless war, but he'll keep pissing people off. Hillary pissed people off even more, albeit barely. One thing the politicians should consider is shortening the election season so we don't have two years of building tension. Get rid of all the primary rules so we don't nominate such polarizing candidates. I don't care what anyone's fears are about what 'might' happen to the parties. They both suck. Everyone gets one vote and they can use it however they want. Both the DNC and RNC proved beyond any reasonable doubt that they are corrupt as hell. You probably don't follow the right as much as I do, but they pulled all the shit the DNC did and then some, including trying to convince people they could rewrite the rules whenever they want. Even rewriting the rules right before the nomination and it wasn't until then the mainstream media finally called them on it and they gave up.