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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Aetius

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    Oh no, a competent Speaker of the House. Whatever shall we do.
     
  2. Revengeofthenerds

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    Kamala Harris is debating a 2020 presidential run. Despite her stance on guns, I would fully support her.
     
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    Not a single gun person will ever agree with the dems stance on guns going into the election season. It’s going to have to be a “hold your nose” type deal. There will be too much pressure from the far left to go hard anti gun.
     
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    Based on her last run as Speaker, I can’t tell if this serious or not.
     
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    Did you miss the medical marvel that we all just witnessed the last few years when doctors surgically removed Paul Ryan's spine?
     
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    I'm about as fervent a "gun person" as you can be. I'm not sure how many actual gun control measures could ever pass on a national-level, at least with the SCT being the way it is now.

    It's one of those things, for me at least, where just because I disagree with someone about one or two positions, doesn't mean I can't or shouldn't support them in general (Beto was very anti-2A and I supported him as well).
     
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    I don't like the Dems' position on guns solely because it loses them a lot of votes they could otherwise very easily get, but at the same time I don't understand single issue gun voters at all. It's a hobby, learn to vote on what matters.
     
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    If I lived in a place like california or new york, I would be a single-issue gun voter. Those places limit magazine capacity, and certain features on firearms (less than 10 rounds, have basically made illegal everything that makes the AR-style platforms so popular). Laws like that are not only unconstitutional, they have an immediate impact on my ability to defend myself, if I were to live or be in one of those states. So I recognize why a subset of "gun people" are single-issue 2A voters, just not everyone.

    That being said, I live in a state (Texas) that fortunately protects my Constitutional rights and I'm not going to single-issue vote on something that has no direct impact on me, at the cost of otherwise supporting a candidate who's platform would have an immediate and direct impact on my well-being.
     
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    Oh so you can’t actually defend Pelosi, got it. Don’t worry, I can’t either. Neither can a bunch of congressional Democrats that tried to oust her.

    Now I just have to assume you’re trolling.
     
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    Ever seen those signs that say "Family, God, Guns"?

    They're fucking everywhere in the south. Even on bumper stickers.
     
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    Say that to a single issue abortion voter.
     
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    I mean performing abortions is my hobby, but I think for women it's more about access to healthcare.
     
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    I like it when my in-laws talk about how they vote for republicans because they (among other things) don’t support gay marriage because the Bible said so.

    Guess they missed that whole sodomy part of the Bible then. Or how our Constitution doesn’t once mention the bible....
     
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    That’s because your founding fathers HATED the fucking church. Ben Franklin said “Lighthouses have more uses than churches”. And paraphrasing Thomas Jefferson, he called Christianity “The greatest perversion ever to be unleashed upon mankind”.

    I don’t know WHERE the fuck the yokels down there got the impression that USA is a Christian nation. It is not, and saying it is makes its creators spin in their graves.
     
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    It was part of the southern strategy. If you can find some sort of thing that you can use to make a group feel more superior to others, they will like you because of it. It’s also a clever way to get people to vote against their own economic interests by appealing to a higher power. Using religion to manipulate stupid people is humanity’s greatest past time.
     
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    Dismissing and trivializing guns as just a "hobby" is why you see Democrats repeatedly stung at the ballot box.
     
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    Not really. Thats going to be a tough find in Massachusetts.
     
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    Maybe that's a Texas thing? I have lived in the South most of my life. I travel regularly all over Georgia, SC, NC and Alabama. I might have seen one of those signs, and can't remember ever seeing that bumper sticker.
     
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    A federal judge agreed ( from Jan. 2014 ):

    The state Sheriffs' Association has advised its members to not enforce a law limiting a firearm magazine to seven bullets after a federal judge ruled it unconstitutional last week.

    The judge in Buffalo ruled last Tuesday that most of New York's gun control law adopted a year ago is constitutional, rejecting most of the arguments made by gun-rights groups in their lawsuit against the state. The judge, however, said the state's seven-bullet limit in a magazine is "arbitrary" and shot it down.

     
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    I think the Democrats should drop it purely for electoral reasons, but it's still just a hobby. Some people collect guns, some people collect stamps. Some people go to the shooting range, some people go to the driving range. Some people go hunting, some people kick dogs on the side of the highway. These are hobby activities.