One of the things I'm waiting to hear more about is what they're going to do about his businesses. First, I believe he has to declare all his financials so we will get to see that finally. Second, when previously asked about putting his assets in a blind trust, junior said they were planning to and then proceeded to not really grasp the concept. This ties in to some of the above though. I'm torn on the issue of exploiting tax loopholes (not really a discussion for here) but he still owns all those companies that he has been using the tax code to help generate profit for. By pushing to reform it we are talking about something that would cost him in the tens of millions of dollars. Is he willing to put that aside?
I'm not going to do a point-by-point rebuttal because I'm pretty sure we've been down that path before. So I'm just going to ask you this. In a previous response to me, you said: Yet you just said: So you identify as left-leaning, but hate everyone on the left and what the left stands for. How do you reconcile what appears to be this massive cognitive dissonance?
He is a dangerous psychopath who shouldn't be a mall security guard. And Trump is the biggest police apologist in America. So I have no doubt he's going to get a lot more stroke in the near future. Trump refuses to acknowledge that there is any problem with American policing whatsoever. He calls them "The most mistreated demographic in America." Give me a fucking break.
11,000 people voted for Harambe, a dead fucking gorilla as if the election is a big joke. Theoretically if those votes were concentrated, it might have swayed electoral votes in some areas.
No, I don't hate the left. I also don't think he's nearly as bad as the people afraid of him are. Maybe I am crazy, but so is a lot of this country. I'm not going to snap tomorrow and start attacking someone. I've never been a violent person (maybe when I was a teenager). I'm just being as honest as I can about the state of this country.
Voting is the one and only true say we get while being a citizen of our country. Throwing it away and then turning around and bitching about how things don't go your way is the ultimate hypocricy. On the lighter side, this is absolute GOLD:
I'm exaggerating a bit because I'm running out of ways to express myself. So sick of talking about it. I have very, very different views of what could have happened to this country if Hillary had won, and it's not as irrational as some of you are making it out to be. Just glad it's over. Like, I said - I wasn't going to snap if Hillary won. I thought she would and I was far more worried Trump wouldn't make his concession speech.
Some idiot in California decided to protest Trump's election. Apparently he thought long and hard on what was the best way to convey his indignation and thought he had settled on the perfect protest...raising a Nazi fucking flag over his house. I wish I could hear the mental gymnastics involved in that decision. http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/sa...test-of-trump-backfires/ar-AAk6IMj?li=BBnb7Kz
It's funny to me how everyone is shitting on the DNC (rightfully so) for what they did to get Clinton the nomination, but crickets chirping about how Trump got his nomination. Whether it was by some fuckery behind the scenes like with the DNC or whether that many Republicans actually thought he was the best candidate, I think it's clear that the RNC needs just as much reform as the DNC. Hell, they've been needing it - I think Romney would have won back in 2012 if they hadn't shifted his moderate views to appeal to the far right. I can see why Trump pandered to the far right, because he is such a dumpster fire that he needed to appeal to as many sectors of the Republican party as he could. The Republican party may feel victorious right now because they are completely in power, but ultimately they are the losers because it is their party that will be attached to this gross, gross man forever.
Again, you keep saying this, but every time you talk about the left you have nothing but scorn and vitriol for the left. Seriously, in all your posts I don't think I've ever seen you say a single, positive thing about the left, and frankly even if you did it's eclipsed by all the shitting you do on the left. So you'll forgive me for not understanding how you can then turn around and say you don't hate the left.
What I see in the third chart is Sanders voters not voting for Clinton. I see democrats pissed off they got fucked over, and then fucked up by throwing it away altogether in their anger.
Well no, they didn't throw it away, they just didn't vote at all. The chart shows that Trump didn't gain many, if any, upset Democrats or pissed off Sander supporters. It shows almost 10M Democrats stayed home compared to 2008.
Last thing I'll say and then I'm shutting off the internet and the tv for a few days, because I can't quit any argument and it's a major personal problem. It is a cognitive dissonance in voting for Trump. And I really feel awful having done it. The left is hurting people out there more than you know. I'm a blathering idiot who throws out any thought that pops into his head, but it really is making people feel terrible. Not just the way they treat me, but seeing how people are treated everywhere. It has become a sort of standard in this country. The right does it in a different way, but it's equally bad. We have ourselves in a terrible mess and everyone in this country is in it together. I hope this election is a wake up call because people need to come to their senses. What our politics have done is making it painful for so many people.
This actually feels like a good note to end this thread on, as it sums up the problem nicely. Other mods may feel differently; feel free to unlock.
Keep the "discussion" here... but be aware that I'm getting pretty sick of the same old back and forth that makes me want to just kill all political discussion altogether...
I think one of the things we can work on here is an evolution of dialogue. Blinders have to come off, on both sides, in order to discuss how we've alienated one another. Ideally this would be a good start but it's going to be hard to switch from "wtf" to "okay I see where you're coming from here's where I'm at..." Using continued interaction to find the places we agree (debt is too high, college costs too much, Trump really needs a toner on his hair, etc.) so we can then turn around and have the perspective to tackle the things we don't necessarily agree on. I hope this stays open so we can do that. Even in the reading and not so much participating, I've learned a lot.
If it had just been Colorado and Washington, I think hypothetical AG Chris Christie (although it looks more like Giuliani now) would have had success using federal agents to aggressively attack legal weed in those states. I don't think it's doable against the tidal wave of states that legalized weed this past week however. California and Massachusetts were added to the list, both powerful blue states with influence. North Dakota, Montana, Arkansas, and Florida added medical marijuana, and those were all states that voted for Trump. Going after legal weed isn't just about corralling one or two rogue hippie states anymore, it's about taking on his own base, as well as going up against several of the more powerful Blue states that already hate his guts (including the most powerful one of all).
I can't imagine a scenario where they go after legal weed in states that legalized it. There would be far too much backlash, especially considering republicans are supposed to be the party of "states rights" and smaller federal government. It would be the ultimate fuck you to states rights if they started cracking down on states that voted to legalize marijuana. More likely they do the same thing Obama did. "We will respect the wishes of the states that legalized it." And then change nothing. National decriminalization would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. My state never will, which is a shame. I could seriously use just all the weed to get through the next four years.