That's basically what Mueller said. Mueller reported just the facts and left the judgment to DoJ officials because he felt the question of prosecuting or even recommending prosecuting a sitting president was above his pay grade. However the letter from Barr seems to make that judgment call and say there was no obstruction, which is absurd to me.
He’s been literally celebrating In Mar-a-lago for two days. The Barr letter said the determination of obstruction has nothing to do with the office of the Presidency.
What Barr concludes is that absent the underlying crime of collusion, based on Muellers conclusion of that charge, the president couldn’t obstruct justice as a factual matter.
Which is an absurd notion, because A crime need not have occurred for an investigation to be obstructed. Far more than just collusion between the campaign and the Russians was being investigated, and that investigation bore fruit of multiple indictments, both of the process variety on American persons, and the more direct criminal action of Russian persons.
It also seems that Mueller’s scope was quite narrow and that is why he farmed out so many other cases to other districts. There’s something like 17 other investigations currently underway. What I don’t get is how he can take what took 2 years to do be completely summarized in under 48 hours and boiled down to a 4 page letter saying “nothing to see here”. “It also says it does not exonerate the President.” Yet Sanders just said the total opposite. Why lie about seemingly good news?
His unsolicited memo auditioning for the job was 5 times the length of this “summary”. In short, the guy Trump hired to bury the report, buried the report.
Right, like Trump firing Comey stopped the Mueller investigation. You are going to sit there with a straight face and say the report won't be examined with a microscope by the media and congress with subpoenas for all??
I mean, I hope they will subpoena the report. They will fight the release. But if the report exonerates the president just the Trump camp says, they should have no issue supporting its release.
In the end, I respect Meuller, and I will absolutely respect his findings. I just won't believe anyone's "thoughts" or "impressions" on his report, regardless of what sections are quoted. Too many people are looking for this to be the "start the impeachment" fire starter, but when all is said and done, it has been proved that Russia is fucking with your elections (regardless of collusion by your politicians), there are 39 indictments, 25 of which are for Russians, and there are a ton of collateral investigations as a result of this. I hope people accept and act on this report for what it is, not what they were hoping it to be. I also hope everyone pushes for the public release of this report, not just the release of those parts that the Executive want to be released. Again, 2 days of no tweets? There is something in there that Trumpco are trying to figure out.
Same, but that's never going to happen. The left wants it to say how evil trump is and how he needs to go to jail for life and blah blah blah. The right hopes it's a complete exoneration. The reality, as it usually is, is going to be somewhere in the middle I think. I THINK it's going to say something like his hands are very dirty, and here's all the evidence showing why, but it's up to the American people to decide what to do about that. In the end, both sides are going to claim victory but neither side is going to be truly happy. Even though it was never about appeasing one side, or choosing a winner or a loser.
This looks like denial. It's natural. Next is anger. I'm sure Mueller is in for some rough weeks and months ahead. He will be blamed for making you all look like unhinged fools for the last two years
You sound like Trump Jr. And if that’s the case, you should be in full support of the release of the entire report. Showing everyone what a complete fool I am.
There's the anger. Let it out. You and others went into painful detail theory-crafting how all this treasonous activity occurred every day. Many others tried, in vain, to temper your enthusiasm for the fiction that the MSM was spinning but it is what it is. Here is the other big hit coming: https://www.foxnews.com/politics/tr...ler-report-calls-for-investigation-into-probe This is going to be the real news story once it is investigated. It's one thing to weaponize the Treasury. It's another to weaponize Justice.
Sure. Why not? Have you stopped to consider the implications for an AG if he lied about the content of the report? I have and if this is a lie, hang Trump and the whole crew from the yard arm. When you say the whole thing - are you prepared to go under the hood to look at 2015 onward of the Obama Presidency, Clinton's campaign, the DNC, etc. involvement in the Steele dossier, FISA court system, etc.?
I don’t think Barr is lying per se. But his wording leaves open the fact that there is a lot of evidence in the report he chose to leave out. He didn’t once produce a complete quote, just fragments of quotes. The report was designed to protect Trump and it’s obvious. Standing around and gloating over Barr’s report while the multitudes of other investigations are still underway seems premature. Calling us crazy and fools and conspiracy theorists when there is so much more to come seems unwise. And yes, air out all the dirty laundry.
I’m all for it being released in full, we paid for it. I’m guessing it is full of the same conclusions the Hillary email investigation was. “Here is some evidence that could implicate x,y,z but it doesn’t raise to the beyond a shadow of a doubt threshold, no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute.” Like that situation the opposition will claim it was a miscarriage of justice, harp on some of the juiciest tidbits, and move on to the next outrage.
I love the media tying itself in knots trying to downplay the results of the report like it wasnt the dominant story of every news cycle for 2 years, acting like collusion was already a foregone conclusion and impeachment was right around the corner. WaPo ran an editorial this morning stating that Trump owes Mueller an apology. Rachel Maddow was literally about to cry on the air when the news broke. Imagine being that upset that the President of the United States is NOT guilty of colluding with a foreign government. The division in the country was sewn entirely by the news media, not politicians.