There is a lot in here that's either untrue or completely twisted to continue the same tired thought of white people are the problem, cause all the problems, and are the only race actively trying to repress another. People are dismissing BLM because it's a shitty "organization" with no direction, questionable leadership, and without a coherent message or plan for change. It's a fringe group exactly like Occupy Wallstreet was, and it's going to die off in the exact same manner. White people are ready to pick up guns and start a revolution because Trump won. The only problem being, they are mostly liberals and they believe couch politics and change. org petitions are enough to start a revolution. They aren't. Also ~70 years ago a bunch of Japanese, Italian and Irish American citizens were put in internment camps by a President who the Democrats consider one of the greatest of all time. White people won't become a minority in 50 years in the US. They may not make up the overwhelming majority they used to, but if you combine all of the non-white races together, they don't even amount to half of the white population. And you saying, the next 50 years of a possibility of losing the majority race in the country is why Trump was elected president? This is the line you want to draw in the sand and plant your flag? White people are just as scared of having their culture taken over by another culture as are every other ethnicity/religion/country etc. No one in Iran is inviting Israelis into their country hoping Israelis eventually change all of their customs and beliefs. No one in China wants Koreans to come to their country and take over their culture. Humans are a tribal species just like most animals are and we have this ingrained in our DNA. You aren't going to change this unless something beyond our imagination happens and humans radically evolve into something different. Your related note, is nothing. You talked about a story of a black man in 1955 who was killed in front of a teenager who's father is a Klan member and that's your "See!!! Racism" line you want to use? Go to North Korea and try to convince a teenager there Dear Leader is corrupt and horrible. Go to the West Bank and try to convince a teenager Israelis are good people. All this does is confirm the fact you live around racist people and have done little if anything to help bring about change. You were in a fantastic position to do so, being a teacher who had the ability to help shape future children, but most of your posts about your time as a teacher, or in response to some bullshit your racist in-laws said has been passive aggressive whining to a forum of strangers. I'd say if you feel so strongly about the things you post on this board, you are in a prime position to do something about it, but as is the case with many other liberals, you've decided "fuck teaching in that pit anymore, I'd rather just be a stay at home dad and raise my kids while leeching off my wife and my racist inlaws". I know that's probably harsh as fuck, but it's true. Sorry.
I find it interesting that for the left in this country race was a huge issue this election, but it either didn't matter or was near the bottom of the list to most people on the right. The left is trying really hard to construe a message that this election was about race for the right, but the message is incoherent, and suffers from source selection/misapplication bias. I have mixed feelings on this because while I equated picking Trump to launching a nuke at Washington; I think he might do well, but if he doesn't I want the dems to be able to take it back. All the KKK/nazi talk is running their cause straight into the ground because none of it is going to happen, and they're going to look really stupid over the next four years. Watching the last week unfold, I don't think this is a lesson the left can learn. Are we going to see 4 years of retarded sensationalism to get Trump reelected? hope my glass half full about the fucker is right. Maybe the left can do better, but it doesn't look good. I have serious doubts about the media being able to change in that time frame. I'm looking forward to seeing if he can implement some of his good ideas. I can't take the notion that 'all the bad stuff will happen' and 'none of the good stuff will happen' seriously. The guy isn't even in office yet.
I am some kind of boogy man for you, aren't I? Holy shit, I literally don't know who you are, and can't think of a single memorable thing you've said, so I suppose I'll not resort to your level or defend myself. I knew being a stay at home dad I'd face judgmental assholes, I've learned to laugh it off for what it is. Rather, I'll address something I've seen from your posts: lots of justifications for being racist. "It's in our DNA," or "it's tribal." It all goes back to something I've been saying all along, Whether or not racism and discrimination is a bad thing is back to being a discussion. I thought it was decided a long time ago that discrimination is bad, but you just posted a long winded diatribe justifying it, even resorting to the old stand by "but dems have done it too!" As if that makes it okay. Or that it is in our DNA, one step below espousing Eugeics. If you think racism is okay, or normal, or not a problem, that's fine. Just own it. I'll still think you're a terrible human being, but I don't think you care what I think. Or maybe you do based on that rant...
I can't let this go because I don't want anyone to think there aren't easy answers to these questions. I don't think anyone on this board has made the argument that the emails weren't newsworthy. Rather, some of them were. Others like the spirit cooking bullshit was just sensationalized nonsense with no merit whatsoever, and honestly we didn't have a right to know how they made their dinner plans. But sure, some of the stuff was newsworthy and fair. Did it prove that she was crooked and treasonous? Not to the extent that you wish. (BTW, I hope you are all enraged that Pence is trying to keep emails private) But what is being lost in all of this is that this leak was meant to damage Hillary Clinton. That was the entire purpose of the leaks. Why? Why is it so important for Russia to make Hillary undetectable and by extension have Trump elected? These emails are no longer about Hillary Clinton. It is about Trump. He is the winner. The Russians have their desired result. And he is already signalling that he wants to reset our relationship with Russia and be friendly. It's not just a liberal idea that this is a bad thing. From John McCain yesterday: Is Putin whispering orders into Trump's ear? No. But will Putin run circles around him and his administration on foreign policy? I can't see how it would be otherwise considering Trump's transition team hasn't even contacted the Pentagon and State Department yet. The level of incompetence is funny until I remember what is at stake.
I can't believe you read Popped Cherries' post and your takeaways were: - she judges you for being a stay at home dad. - she think racism is fine and normal. - she supports discrimination. It amazes me sometimes how the subconscious - or whatever - can hone your awareness to such a point that you are never consciously exposed to the correct criticisms. Sort off off topic, but an illustration that our fundamental lack of empathy and unwillingness to expose ourselves to harsh self reflection is a big part of why we're so fragmented right now.
I think she judges him for quitting a job where he had an enormous platform to affect long term change just because it was hard, then continues to complain about the family he's deliberately chosen to spend more time with...but I might be reading her post wrong. PC, feel free to correct me.
I mean, I don't particularly care to go too deep on two other posts spatting, just saying it definitely felt like it was intended to be a personal insult. Like if I had made a comment about the comically large size of Shegirl's nipples.
He hates everyone around him. I can't tell if he's a crazed sjw, or if the place he lives is just fucked up. I'm sick of the constant 'this is the real America' bullshit, but whatever, don't care. I'm ok with friendlier relations with Russia. Some of the stuff the US has done like support the overthrow of Assad - at least the way they're doing it, hasn't been smart, and it sure as hell hasn't been beneficial to the global war on terror. The Crimea isn't worth fighting over forever, and rigged election or not, the majority of that area really did want to be annexed. If they can come to some reasonable deal it's certainly preferable to another 4-8 years of cock flexing where everyone loses. The EU has to step up their game in the region if they're serious about Russian influence in eastern Europe. America can help, but I'm sick of them asking us to do everything. Let's please not get into worst case scenarios of "Now, Russia is going to take over Europe." Won't happen. It could be argued that there is a very serious concern that Trump cut a deal under the table with Putin that is going to fuck some people over (not likely Americans) but so far the evidence is only circumstantial. Nothing concrete... yet. If it happened we'll likely not know until the deal is in place. Even if such a deal were to occur, I still prefer it to Clinton's foreign policy, but we would have to see what it is, if any.
Well I'll first correct that, as much as I write like a girl, I'm not one. As to your point Dcc, it's exactly what I was stating in the last paragraph. D26 had a position to actually do something about the racism he claims to see everywhere, and instead of actually standing behind the words he speaks in here against white people, he took the road he claims is reprehensible. I have no problem with him being a stay at home dad. It's great he wants to be a part of raising his children. What I do have a problem with is someone who has posted some of the trash that's been posted in the last 20 pages of this thread, was in a position to teach children about the effects of racism, AS WELL AS, influence his own family to not be racist, and on both fronts, nothing but a typical response from someone who talks a big game and is primarily full of hot air. As far as the other things, I'm aware I probably don't say a lot of memorable things on here. The reason I remember a lot of what you post is two fold. One, I actually care about listening and hearing what people have to say on this board and because of that, I remember a lot of what various posters say about their lives and experiences. Two, out of your 2000+ posts, I'd venture to guess 80% have been about bitching about your horrible job or your racist inlaws. There isn't a justification for racism. Period. Stop. However, it is inherently in our human nature to be racist/culturaist/tribal/whatever you want to call it. It's one of our jobs as a species to survive and continually improve. One of the ways we do that is by moving past the idea that skin pigmentation is a good reason to separate our tribes. This is not just a white vs the field problem, this is a everyone vs everyone problem. Since the civil rights movement, almost all racially/culturally/religiously/politically charged topics are not coming from a place to bring people together and creating equality, it's coming from a place of one group wanting to be "The Winner". Doesn't matter who that group is, it's the goal of whatever tribe you belong to. Continually bringing up the fact that white people have privilege or male privilege or any of the other common terms thrown around ad nauseam, it's sickening to know it's not coming from a place of equality or togetherness, it's coming from a place of wanting to be "The Winner". I'm well aware my position in my tribe is one of meaninglessness. I barely hold the position of pack leader over my dog, let alone have the influence over my entire race. This is why I specifically said "You aren't going to change this unless something beyond our imagination happens and humans radically evolve into something different." Honestly, I read and hear what you say and make a decision about how I want to respond to what you are saying. Nothing more, nothing less. I'm not emotionally attached to my statements, they are just my perception which turns into my response and I'm aware, it's probably blunt and lacking any sort of empathy.
I was a lot more in favor of the Obama administration's and Clinton's positions on Russia, but the more you read into it the worse it looked. It's one thing to implement some sanctions. It's another to constantly make threats, arm dangerous rebels, and implement a no fly zone that will perpetuate the war in Syria. Article about a German diplomat - I hope that last quote had nothing to do with any under the table agreements, but we're still swimming in a lot of speculation.
Where does the bolded come from? This is an Evel Kneivel-sized leap in logic. Seriously, who has proven a connection to Russia? They confirmed Guccifer got in but I haven't seen anything proving the Russians did and if they did, how is that not treasonous for the head of thet State Department to have classified data on unprotected servers that were hacked by Russia? You can't have it both ways, homie. Furthermore, hanging your hat on a statement from the NSA saying outside actors definitely played a part in this and all of the sudden that confirms that it was Russia? This is the same NSA that lied about snooping on EVERYONE until they were caught? Stop with this nonsense and let's go back to what I said for a moment. The DNC and her campaign have nobody to blame but themselves for being stupid and I am 100% positive this will be the last homebrew server without encryption used by a politician. I won't argue Government incompetence because it is actually our Government's specialty and if you worked anywhere near the Federal Government you would facepalm at least once a day, I assure you of this from personal experience. In terms of relations with Russia and John McCain. Why is anyone listening to John McCain still? This is the same John McCain who was pushing war in Syria and arming ISIS and Nusra Front? The same guy who pushes war with Iran? I have an idea here for everyone with these stupid ideas who aren't going to enlist, arm themselves and hold the line: Before we listen to an unrepentant war-monger, let's give peace a chance for a change. I'm sure our troops that will have to go fight this boondoggle in a long line of boondoggles would appreciate you taking a less hawkish approach.
Joint Statement from the Department Of Homeland Security and Office of the Director of National Intelligence on Election Security 10/17/16 Now you can say, that "oh they don't really know for sure," but I'm taking the word of the U.S. intelligence community on this one. I guess you are thinking that the Obama/Clinton camp has orchestrated some great lie that spans across several agencies. Treasonous? Now you're the one making Evel-Kneivel sized leaps. I quoted John McCain to prove that the idea that suddenly being great friends with Russia may not be such a great idea isn't some lefty liberal criticism. It's fine to give peace a chance. But I'd say the odds are that Russia doesn't want to give peace a chance so much as Putin wants to give Russian hegemony a chance. Their actions over the past few years have just been the definition of peaceful, ya know? Seizing Crimea, basically invading Ukraine, and the bombings of Aleppo hospitals all have the underlying theme of peace. There is government incompetence and then there is Trump incompetence because he can't get his people lined up to go meet their future predecessors at the State Department, but he can meet with professional skateboarders. I should note that the meeting with the skateboarder hasn't been confirmed by Trump, but it says something that this is even in the believable realm.
So what's the problem then? Why does D26's decision to stop teaching reflect poorly on him if it's like you say, no more change can occur unless humans evolve into something else? What can he teach his students in light of your assertion that further change is impossible? Shouldn't you be congratulating him on realizing the truth that you see?
No one, but we know there was a lot of leaks, and while it could have come from several sources, the Russians are the best hackers around; of those likely to do it. Then there's the public statements by Putin praising Trump and grating his teeth at Clinton. There were pragmatic reasons for Putin to do this that don't involve a clandestine connection, but it's still a legitimate question. Evidence like 'he hasn't contacted the defense department' yet is pretty meaningless. The guy has been crazy busy over the last week and still isn't taking office until January 20. Gravy, you're reaching a lot here and pushing at worst case scenarios. Mainly, involving Trump being so stoooopid. He's not. People have been calculating the odds and predicting his failure and he's outsmarted these people at every turn, including the entire republican establishment, and then Hillary Clinton and everything the dems/media could throw at him. If people are expecting 4 years of Bush, they should listen to the fucking man himself instead of seeking out the bad press he gets. I've looked into a lot of the context from that bad press, and quite often they are lying about what was said/what happened. His constant bitching about the media wasn't presidential to be sure, but it was also justified ad nauseam.
Plenty, starting with his 60 min interview. I saw a lot of positives in there. No shit he's appointing republicans. I don't care. But I'm going to wait until Jan 20th, and then I'm going to wait at least a year before I'm really critical of what he has done/hasn't done. The liberal freak out is going full steam. I know they (the media, protesters, etc.) are trying to convince Trump voters that everything has gone to hell, but from the outside looking in, it's people losing their shit over stuff we either expected to happen, or speculating on the worst possible on the flimsiest of pretexts.
Because we live in a magical world of unicorns and rainbows where I can teach a kid who was raised to believe all other races were inferior to believe in equality, duh. Haven't you seen American History X? That shit happens every day, I just didn't stand and deliver well enough. Methinks someone watched too many movies and figured teachers could make that change. Of course, if you actually paid attention to why I quit teaching, you'll see it was quite capitalist: money. Put simply, my salary as a teacher was so low we would have lost money sending our two kids to daycare, so staying home was the best option financially. Sure, there were racist assholes at that school, but I could've easily gotten a job at a more urban school and been quite happy. The money was the issue. As for my in-laws, since I've been home we actually see them much much less (likely because they were a source of child care that we no longer need, so... win win win. My life is actually pretty awesome considering I hate everyone and would welcome a nuclear apocalypse). Besides, is anyone surprised that I posted something that challenged his (and swear to god the only thing I thought I knew about PC was that he was a woman, so I really, literally knew nothing about him) world view and his response was to lash out and personally attack me? Gee, I wonder why there aren't more liberal voices on this board. They all get run off eventually so the groupthink can set in. Oh, and since he keeps bringing up that horrible racist democrat FDR: Trump surrogates already using Japanese internment to justify registering all Muslims. But really, guys, race has nothing to do with it. Ps: it's kinda sad an entire page of this thread got hijacked to talk about me personally, I thought personal attacks were frowned upon...