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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. SouthernIdiot

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    Pardons are only for federal crimes though. The states can absolutely prosecute the shit outta them for that. And at least the way NY is going, the trump family is going to be drowning in legal fees if nothing else.
     
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    I don't know if they leave a paper trail or not, but I've said that you can't trust any computerized voting machine, and I've been saying this for twenty years.

    How does a computer voting machine create a paper trail that can't be hacked?
     
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    Believe it or not, blockchain. Same shit that Bitcoin uses.

    More specifically, something called a Merkle Tree: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkle_tree

    It's not a paper trail, but you can have a publicly audit-able record of events that are saved in a distributed manner.

    There are ways to build a system to do this kind of stuff.

    There ARE whole countries that do all of their voting online, securely. The only real thing that fucks it up in the US is (a) the need for people in charge to get their buddies/cronies the contract when they have zero fucking clue about what they're doing and (b) people's lack of understanding and inherent lack of trust of such a system.

    There are smart people out there who can design/build such a system, but the morons are picking the idiots to build something different.
     
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    The Dominion machines work like this. You vote and then the machine prints out a paper ballot. You look it over to make sure it's marked the way you voted and hand it to a poll worker. Thus, it's easy to make sure the vote tally the machine shows is correct if audited later on. This is why the claims of them being manipulated is easily disproven.
     
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    This is what happened when I voted in Georgia. Voted with a card, printed my ballot, ran it though a scanner.
     
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    BUT RUSH LIMBAUGH AND DANA LOESCH SAID THE GEORGIA ELECTION WAS A TOTAL FRAUD 'CAUSE VOTING MACHINES!'

    Seriously though, I didn't know that you got a printed "receipt" for voting.

    WE DIDN'T GET THAT IN TEXAS, WHICH I THINK IS FUCKED UP.

    Also, it turns out that I CAN vote in Texas this year. And I did.
     
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    The machines used in Texas were the ES&S machines. Sounds like the Democrats should look into them, but they won't.
     
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    Yes, those were the Dominion machines.
     
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    LA's system is similar. You go in, sign in, and they take a blank ballot and print a barcode on it (thus turning it from just another piece of paper into an official ballot, at the same time registering in the system that said ballot was handed out). You go to the machine, select your choices, and feed your ballot into the machine. It prints your choices on the ballot in both human readable form and in an easily scanned barcode. You check it over, make sure it's all good, and then put it back in the machine where it records it as final and drops it in the ballot storage box. A recount is as simple as rescanning all the paper ballots.
     
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    Does he not know that Joeba Fett has a set of armor made of pure beskar?
     
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    Spoilers, guys, I don’t have Disney plus yet.
     
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    Abstract of a recent paper:
    "Wait, you mean it's the Republicans who are the party of identity politics?"
    "Always has been"
     
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    Lol no one is believing that bullshit for a second. The fact that someone commissioned a paper to try to prove it is hilarious all by itself.
     
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    If you haven't figured out that the Republicans' entire electoral strategy relies on identity then I don't know what to tell you. It's been obvious for years. Policy can swing like a weathervane as long as you assure the Republican voter that there's a "they" that must be opposed.
     
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    So... the definition of “political party”?