https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/28/gohmert-suit-pence-overturn-trumps-defeat-451485 McConnell sagely recognizes that: 1. The current GOP can't survive another Trump term, for a variety of reasons. McConnell can work with Biden, at least, when he needs to. 2. Fucking with overturning the election means all those Senate seats...presumably are up for grabs again? Flip to the Democrats? Remember, the 2020 map was brutal to the GOP and they came out in far better shape than they predicted. 3. Letting this entire process go as far as it needs to go without making a statement or lifting a finger is another good strategy. Why? Because Trump is unpredictable and the more time he spends trying to overturn the election in court, the less time he spends hearing about less savory options that a sitting US President can execute that are really bad ideas. He's been given bad legal advice to chase his own tail, and that means he's not getting better legal advice to declare martial law or something even more outlandish (yet). I don't think Trump wants to be President, or that he ever did. I think he just wants a way out of his current mess, and keeping this cacophony of tard going means donations are still flowing in. So, I don't see Trump nuking France or whatever to stay in power, and I think (and hope) someone in that office has the stones to talk him out of that kind of shit if it comes up. 4. Keep these people sniping at each other, so that Trump's hold on the base is gone by 2024, and likely by 2022. The GOP right now is trying to wrangle a herd of crazies that are the farthest-right and most vocal voters and they are fucking unhinged: they believe shit with no evidence, which makes them susceptible to being hijacked. It's Q-Anon now, it's W-ymous next, and there's no guarantee that anyone can control the message any better. They can't keep Dale Gribble as a major voting bloc when the appeal to him as a voter is that the government is evil, corrupt and can't be trusted (insert conspiracy theories masquerading as fact), and are vulnerable to the same "fake news" that got them here. If there's no burden of evidence for accusations, how long does it take the average Q-Anon believer to wonder..."hey, how come there's no Republicans implicated in child-pizza-sex-lizard people trafficking if all the gubmint is so evil and corrupt?" 5. It's starting to sink in that the GOP made inroads with people of color, so all hope is not lost for 2022 and 2024. The GOP leadership is figuring out that it's going to be easier to flip minority voters, and solidify in red states (and make the Democrats waste a shit ton of money in places like Texas, NC and SC that are not actually flippable) than it is to maintain the current base. From one of my lobbyist buddies: they are figuring out they will do better if some of these people literally do not vote at all, than to try and keep them happy for four years on a diet of conspiracy theories, Fox News and lies about "election fraud" or the "swamp" or "socialism" or whatever the fuck else it is. Letting some of these fringe characters pick each other off is McConnell's genius (and playing the long game is kind of what the conservative party should be doing anyway). Pence getting sued here could mean his 2024 chances are fucked, and that's one less Trump-ette that the establishment GOP has to beat.
So what happens if Pence actually does this thing he is apparently completely within his powers to do?
It's bullshit that can't happen. https://www.vice.com/en/article/z3v...-on-january-6-heres-why?utm_source=reddit.com
Josh Hawley has announced he will object to the certification of votes from the Senate side. I've asked this question before, but I feel compelled to ask it again. What is the end game here? What is the conservative plan? Convince >50% of the country that you refuse to acknowledge their right to vote, that you do not consider any government they vote for legitimate, and then... continue relying on the legitimacy of said government as the only reason you're in power? If you tear down the Constitution, do you really think California and New York and Illinois are going to keep letting fucking Kentucky call the shots just because "it's in the Constitution"? What is the fucking plan here?
They're terrified Trump will still wield power on the cult once he's out of office and want to stay on his good side. That's it, these clowns aren't thinking about the damage being done nor do they care.
It’s in the republicans best interest to distance themselves as far from Trump as possible if they don’t want him to be a gop kingmaker after he leaves. They should do whatever they can to destroy that family for good so that they don’t suck the oxygen out of the party anymore and allow others to run. Each time a Republican fails to sufficiently debase themselves for Trump, he tweets about them and calls them a RINO. That’s it. Just pull off the bandaid and move on.
As long as they fear the wrath of the 73 million who voted for a second term and will likely do whatever he tells them, Trump can play kingmaker for as long as he wants. They will never be free of him until they burn him completely, and with that they burn any chances at winning office again. Trump is the rich but abusive husband they cannot afford to leave.
What you need is for him to die or a crazy to kill him. You have too many stupid cult fuckheads that still seem to still be under the impression that’s he’s not only human, but an ideal leader. The only positive use Trump can provide to this planet is his body turning into compost. If you’re going to burn him, please set fire to the fucktards that still support him as well. They are your country’s lowest common denominator, they are traitors and are activity trying to destroy your country. They ARE deplorable, period. Fuck them.
I really would be lost without your helpful and insightful discourse. I actually like the idea of combating the disinformation as a cyber security issue. It would give all those security companies on my LinkedIn something actually worthwhile to sell/talk about.
I saw his expression and couldn't watch it. I know the guy and have seen some of his past videos, but this I can't watch since it's an actual expert who LEGITIMATELY GIVES A FUCKING SHIT saying it. Like it just hurts so much more and feels worse and more en raging.
Can't say if it's legit since she deleted the tweet, but frankly I wouldn't put it past him. EDIT: Ah, my bad. The White House gift shop is apparently a purely private enterprise, Trump wasn't involved in this.
From what I can tell, this is going to force a vote that is supposed to be a foregone conclusion. Neither chamber is expected to be in favor of overturning the election, and should a group of them decide to, I believe that's treason. I will emphasize: if a group of representatives decides to ignore the will of the people, they are enemies of the state and should be treated as such. There has to be an end to this, and the recognition of the vote should be that end. Why is this still a thing? If you use the "follow the fucking money" logic, it's because the louder and longer this goes on, the more donations these assholes are somehow able to exhort from God knows who. It blows my mind that people DONATE to a billionaire, much less for an election that he lost damn near two months ago, even further stretching the logic that somehow Ted "My Face Haunts Nightmares" Cruz is getting some of that money. I think this is the same mentality leading up to the 2016 election: giving the idiot kid a gun without any bullets, thinking it's harmless. Indulging his bullshit, letting it circulate and ramp up. In 2016, they didn't expect someone to slip the kid a full magazine, and watched in horror as he slapped it in the receiver, and chambered a round, and then he hangs around for 4 fucking years pointing his gun at everything. This vote is indulging Trump's bullshit, which has negative consequences for the GOP and the country EVERY FUCKING TIME THEY DO IT. It's also a stupid move by the Trump loyalists, because it forces the Senate to vote either with reality, democracy and many of their own wins, or for Trump. Voting for Trump in this circumstance is traitorous, and Trump will reward them with...what, exactly? If they don't vote for Trump, Trump's base is going to do...what, exactly? And should that vote fail, you have now antagonized the incoming administration, in the midst of an economic crisis and pandemic that has overwhelmed and humiliated the states, when the majority isn't even a certainty yet. Not to mention doing this goes against more or less a direct edict from the Senate Majority Leader, who if nothing else, is a shrewd motherfucker that a junior Senator who used to coach footbaw shouldn't try to outsmart, much less piss off. It's hard for me to shake the notion that this is being done to placate someone so unpredictable and volatile, facing a very uncertain future, who also happens to have control over the nuclear arsenal and absolutely no interest in the standards of behavior, unwritten rules or decorum of the office. I think they vote, Trump loses, he rants on Twitter, goes golfing and the Senators who entertained this bullshit suffer for it. It also publicly cements who is loyal to y'know, democracy. The downstream impact? I'd wager we'll see at least one more attack a la Nashville, from someone who drank too much of the Kool-Aid, and a whole lot of Trump supporters remember why they didn't vote all those years. If I was less optimistic, I'd say there's a LOT of in-person angry protests with misspelled signs advocating conspiracy theory nonsense and violence that Trump incites, daring Biden, Twitter or who the fuck ever to hold him accountable.
The lawyer defending Kyle Rittenhouse (who wears MAGA hats during press conferences) just stated that Epstein is still alive, and Chief Justice Roberts murdered Anton Scalia. This must be fully investigated immediately. It simply has no holes to it.
You ever think part of the problem is repeating the stupid and or crazy shit these people say, and overlooking the stupid and or crazy shit they do?
I’ll be the first to admit that the people SERIOUSLY overlooked the stupid and crazy shit that Scalia did.
He is now calling for Pence to be executed for treason so that Pompeo can "save the election." Despite the fact that Pompeo is not next in line for the Presidency of the US, the Presidency of the Senate, or any other even tangentially relevant position.