Pro Forced Birth. Downplayed the Pandemic. Voted against certifying the votes of the six swing states that voted for Biden. Good riddance you piece of garbage.
Yeah, fuck him and his bow tie. He’s providing an actual use to your nation for a change, as fertilizer.
I just wonder if he was one of those who laughed and brushed off the Dem congresswoman trying to hand out masks while they sheltered.
The real Super Bowl is close to kick-off. The media has been doing some pre-gaming for it. Are you guys excited? I know I feel a thrill going up my leg.
I dunno much about the man, and I'm not troubling to Google him, but he's an American, a public servant and deserves a bit more respect in death. If nothing else changes, we ought to be able to understand that this virus comes for all of us, and doesn't give a fuck about party lines. Lastly, the notion that it's ok for a Republican to die because of their party is exactly the problem we're having. For this situation to get less fucked or unfucked, we have to inject the respect that got sucked out of the room, and it takes considerable effort to raise the standards that have been lowered over the past few years. That said, if this was Cruz, Graham, McConnell or Hawley, I'd probably be a bit more conflicted about the giddy laughter.
Not particularly; I don't share a lot of common ground with the rest of the board when it comes to politics. I will say that I am somewhat serious or at least of two minds on this; I'm glad they are doing this, it's turning out to be what's best for America but not for the reasons you and I would agree on. The longer Democrats focus on impeachment, the less they focus on pushing forward more of their agenda. I say this because early indications are that they are going after parts of their agenda I disagree with most - illegal immigration, gender politics, gun control, re-expansion of Obamacare instead of creating a workable program and now crushing the gig economy along with creating a lot of pro-union laws I find highly disagreeable.
Yeah, celebrating the death of people that have a "R" instead of a "D" next to their name is particularly ghoulish. I'm not sure how much moral high ground can be claimed when doing so. Was he wrong in voting to not certify the Biden victory or not taking the the pandemic more seriously? Clearly. I know people are going to say they don't care and that they "reap what they sow," but the guy wasn't Adolf Hitler and he had a family and people that cared about him. People are flawed, some deeply. But good Lord, stop treating everyone you disagree with on politics as sub-human. Recognize some nuance and take pity in the dumb decisions that people make that have significant impacts on their lives, but celebrating it is pretty fucked up.
Even among the "stupid political video" genre, that's a particularly dumb and irrelevant video. I think the point they're making is that the current conservative backlash against Biden's election is exactly the same as all of the media discussions about impeachment for the last 4 years? In which case, that's an exceptionally funny take on the situation. Situation 1: Practically every intelligence agency in the first world agrees that Russia interfered with the election. Sitting president is linked to some of this activity. Sitting president then continually engages in (at best) legally questionable behavior throughout his presidency. Media repeatedly says this behavior may be impeachable. Actual impeachment occurs. Twice. Situation 2: Election occurs with an incredible amount of legal scrutiny. Hundreds of lawyers from the sitting president are pursuing challenges in virtually every district he lost. Hundreds of lawyers and millions of dollars fail to produce evidence that anything meaningful occurred. Some conservatives riot, storm the capitol building and threaten the lives of the legislators. Practically the same thing. How did I not see it before?
Wait, so why are you against healthcare expansion DURING A GLOBAL PANDEMIC? And why are you against gig workers with no protections making more money and getting benefits from literally the richest corporations on the planet? All due respect, but politics are the reason why more than 450,000 Americans are dead, and over 27 million Americans have contracted the virus. This man had lung cancer and downplayed a potentially fatal respiratory virus anyway, because it was politically expedient. He cast his lot in with the people who were responsible for those deaths and his own. He and those of his ilk committed negligence, criminal, if not willful, just so they could take political advantage of something that affects everybody regardless of political belief. It's hilariously ironic that this man's death will do nothing to change the minds of others that think the virus is still a hoax. I wouldn't give a single fuck if an arsonist died while burning down a house, and I certainly won't for anybody who died of COVID after downplaying it. The friends and family members I have sympathy for are the ones who tried and failed to get him to change his mind. The rest who supported his political decision that led to his death got what they deserved. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
If you're going to participate in a discussion, it's probably best if you actually, you know, discuss. Dropping nebulous videos and then walking away saying, "you guys just wouldn't agree with me anyway" will, at best, make everyone shrug and disregard you entirely. At worst, the assumption is you have no intelligent thoughts on the matter at all (which I don't think is true). But you do you, I guess.
I fully understand the rationale, and I share the marinating frustration and anger is driving that perspective. Ultimately people can take whatever position they want, but I think going to that level is pretty ugly.
Fine. Situation 1: I disagree. These are the same intelligence agencies that laid the ground work for the Iraqi WMDs? The same organizations whose leaders now hold plumb media positions espousing liberal views and stating that those who disagree are enemies of the State? Leadership whose spouses are in politics for a certain party, were requested to recuse themselves but chose not to. The same organizations, who through declassified documents, have shown to have undertaken a domestic spying campaign against a private citizen or several private citizens, misled/abused the FISA court system up to and including altering and falsifying documents to build a case - in essence, if one were to be so inclined to want to use hyperbole, the Government created what amounts to a soft coup against the elected President? Unsure what other behavior is questionable that other politicians don't engage in regularly - I revert to my usual statement at this point - I agree there is a lot of reprehensible behavior in politics and I have no faith in any of them but when we selectively punish people based on political bent, we take an unfair advantage over everyone else - it's not fair to the rest of us with one set of standards, when others get to have twice as many. Situation 2: Nothing found would overturn the election is a more accurate description in my opinion. Election fraud always occurs to some degree and it should always be meaningful BUT (and I agree) nothing occurred to the degree that beyond any doubt should overturn the election. In many instances, the cases were thrown out without looking at the merits of the evidence, it all occurred very quickly. Whereas in situation 1, with the benefit of four plus years of inquiry, it's clear that all was not as originally presented when the calls for impeachment began on POTUS 45 Presidency, Day 1. This was all besides the point I wanted to make - I was making a corollary between a Super Bowl pregame show and the Impeachment pregame show; which as I'm sure you are aware, we will commence hearings to impeach a non-sitting President soon. Which was really where my interest lies - in hearing thoughts on this big event.
On the other hand, pawning off nearly half a million death for money/power/political gain and fighting tooth and nail to make sure women have no right to their unborn child makes you a piece of shit. I don’t give one FUCK about what party you belong to, it wasn’t mentioned and does not mean shit. I will say it a thousand times as said before : just because you are dead it does not change who you are in life. Are his kids reading this thread? No. Fuck. Him.
@ODEN So, every single US intelligence agency - the FBI, the CIA, and the NSA - agreed that there was Russian interference. Intelligence offices in half a dozen other major countries, including the UK, Germany and Australia, all released independent intelligence reports citing the same. The Republican-majority senate intelligence committee agreed with the US report. All of these people got it wrong? In regards to the impeachment, my view is that, if a President engages in an impeachable offense, he fuckin' better be impeached, tried and removed from office. If he is already out of office, he should have his benefits stripped and be barred from future office. Period. Being out of office, or near the end of a term, should not be a defense. If nothing else, it's critical that our government be capable of holding elected officials accountable for their actions and engaging in this process demonstrates that. If political lines prevent, say, a conviction - that doesn't mean you don't push it as far as you can. If people are going to engage in a dereliction of their duty to convict a criminal, you at least expose that and get everyone to put their name on it.
It happened quickly because the "evidence" (I am using that term very lightly here) had no merit. When the evidence presented is either the insane ramblings of crazy people (https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/12/03/melissa-carone-michigan-trump-giuliani-election/) and the odd case of actual voter fraud involving (usually involving someone casting a vote for a dead relative) to sit down and examine the merits of the case doesn't take very long. Many of the legal briefs submitted were also tossed because they only a few steps removed from being written in crayon. It would be similar to launching a full scale police search to find the "3 headed purple monster" that was reported by a 5 year old as being the one to break the lamp in the living room. It doesn't take a genius to figure out quickly the child is lying. They have had MONTHS to produce even one credible shred of evidence and have failed completely to produce it. It is not some huge leap in logic to conclude that they are lying/delusional.