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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. downndirty

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    Probably after a lot of the political appointments are through the Senate, and a lot of the emphasis on Trump is over.

    If I want any of these proceedings to stick, they should be dry, boring and procedural. Anything with Trump as a participant is going to be inflammatory, but the folks who are actually working these cases want to be as quiet and diligent as possible.

    This is hopefully the peak media attention Trump gets for a long time.
     
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    Murkowski and Collins are triangulating due to representing much less-Trumpian locales (Alaska went only 36% Trump in the 2016 Republican primary, and 52% Trump in the 2020 General, and Maine straight up went blue both times Trump was on the ballot), but Romney is super insulated from pro-Trump blowback and just hates the fucker at this point.
     
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    I've read reports that she was supposedly sleeping around on her husband with multiple guys. This was before she ran for office as I recall.
     
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    She’s probably an absolute freak.
     
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    Crazy almost always is.
     
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    To be fair, Ken is just a Ryu clone.
     
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    What the fuck is even going on here?
     
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    I'm sure that they're just going to congratulate them on what a bang-up job they're doing.

    Or tell them to start doing a better job. One or the other.

    I'm sure it's nothing untoward.
     
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    I always love when the jurors in a trial meet with the lawyers of the defense. If this was a criminal trial, there would be severe consequences.
     
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    Isn't there some kind of rule against this? Or is this kind of thing that's one of those "Gentlemen's agreements" that only count if Democrats try to break it?
    You know, like the whole "No appointing a supreme court justice during an election year" thing.
     
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    Sure. There’s also rules in yoy country against committing treason, which your Oresident dud, and most GOP have their thumb up their ads about it.

    The fact is that they’re a bunch of lying, cackling criminals who do whatever they want. It’s a shame the Democrats didn’t dominate the Senate more so they could put these fucktards in prison where they belong. Even then I doubt they’d have the spine to do it.
     
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    Crown, sometimes I really wonder whether your phone's auto-correct is set to some other language, or if you're posting too soon after hitting the bong.
     
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    Sometimes I think that the bong provides a nice moderating, beneficial effect.
     
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    https://www.axios.com/nikki-haley-trump-2024-af90227a-53c3-4529-aedd-c927a4e0952c.html

    https://www.politico.com/interactives/2021/magazine-nikki-haleys-choice/

    She's pretty much the poster child of "leveraging Trump and leap-frogging him." Her and Cheney will do well between now and 2024, and it's going to be easy for the GOP to coalesce behind her as an Obama-type figure with some impressive credentials. The questions will be: what's she going to run on, who's going to vote for her, and how much of the current GOP will be left?
     
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    She can try to wash off the Trump stain at the last minute but that's been setting for 4 years now.
     
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    Most 2024 GOP hopefuls might be impeached for Enabling of Incitement to Insurrection.
     
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    Trump's final defense seems a glorified version of his first: "orange man bad". In other words, "he didn't do anything wrong, you just hate him so much". I'd call it gaslighting but really, who is actually being gaslit by this? There are no fence sitters this late in the game. You either watched yesterday's evidence or you didn't.
     
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    They are gonna put out just enough horseshit to give the rest of the gop cover to acquit. False equivalencies, bullshit, whataboutism, etc.

    Then the next time someone in the gop attempts to cheat and obtain power through some other fraudulent means, it will be a tad smoother than Trump was able to do.
     
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    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/11/us/politics/trump-coronavirus.html

    I think we'll see a bunch more stuff like this: as Trump's power fades, his ability to lie is withdrawn and the "threat" of his wrath recedes, transparency will rush in, with an unhealthy dose of sensationalism thrown in. Especially as folks close to him struggle to escape his taint (pun intended).

    Part of this is driven by clicks: Biden is boring, busy and staying out of the headlines, and the media geared for Trump hasn't downshifted to Biden yet.
    Part of this will be driven by the desire to expose Trump's bullshit while free of consequences (there's a term for that....cowardice, I think?).
    Part of this is going to be sustained by serious investigations into his finances and the events of the 6th.

    So, I think the impeachment proceeding will result in an acquittal. This is the first shot of an onslaught of accountability directed at Trump before statutes of limitation expire. I think the more time Trump is a target of litigation, the more his political capital wanes, as his hold on the GOP subsides, and the "friends" he's accumulated can't continually defend him in the face of y'know....evidence, especially without his bully pulpit.

    The GOP will acquit here, largely to avoid publicly going against the president, with the hopes that any other litigation that comes up is strictly a matter of opinion ("Senator Graham, what do you think of Trump's alleged fraud/corruption/goat sacrifice/etc.?"). However, if they fail to impeach, it may open the door to civil suits, and it gets monstrous when you think about people like Cruz and Hawley being hauled into court for their role in the 6th, or being implicated in fundraising scandals, or whatever else might be uncovered.
     
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    God Kurt Russel was great in that.