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Elephants and Jackasses...

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by Nettdata, Oct 14, 2016.

  1. Aetius

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    Blunder by the Lincoln Project because it gives Republicans a thing to pretend to be deeply offended by. Even though they were defending the same exact thing in the US Senate literally this week.
     
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    It’s stupid because it provides the pretext for them to say that other instances of white supremacy are also just false flag operations by anti trump groups. And then the bad faith Olympics will just continue another day.
     
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    If they pretend to be offended, that will undo all the good work they have praising the actions in Charlottesville.— that will offended the very many real racists that embody the GOP.
     
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    Add Kim Kardashian to that list.
     
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    Did I just shit myself?

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    I wouldnt call her world class, at least not anymore. I do hear he hangs dong so she might be a size queen.
     
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    That’s probably from fucking half the guys in your country. You could get HPV just by staring at one of her photos for too long.
     
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2021/11/01/justices-texas-abortion-ban-518230

    "The arguments the justices heard Monday were prepared on an extraordinarily compressed schedule, coming just ten days after the court agreed to take up the cases in-person. It’s the most accelerated timeline for a Supreme Court case that actually went to arguments since December 2000, when the justices heard arguments on the 2000 election results on two days notice and decided the case the following day."

    Sounds like they already have an idea of how it's going to go.

    "Kavanaugh seemed troubled by the possibility that allowing the Texas law to remain in effect could lead other states to pass laws that would intrude on various rights protected by the Constitution — one of the key arguments the abortion clinics challenging the law put forward when asking the court to strike it down. Kavanaugh theorized that a left-leaning state could offer a $1 million bounty against those who sell an assault rifle, like an AR-15, then claim it wasn’t using state power because only private parties could bring the suits."

    "People who successfully sue over an abortion in the state can win a minimum of $10,000, but those who successfully defend themselves from such a suit can claim no financial reward. And there can be limitless lawsuits filed in any Texas county over a single abortion, a factor Hearron referenced in Monday’s arguments as one reason the law creates an unconstitutional chilling effect. “It turns the abortion provider into a permanent defendant,” Hearron said."

    Yeah, I can see how this needs to get struck down...there's some flawed logic there.
     
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    The case isn’t even really about abortion, it’s about Texas circumventing federalism.
     
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    The fact that this law wasn't immediately enjoined is astonishing. Abortion totally aside, Sotomayor's open insulting of the majority was completely correct.
     
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    Looks like Youngkin is going to take VA.

    "Critical Race Theory" as the most important thing to vote on. Completely inexcusably stupid voters. Just absolute dumbfuck rubes being led around by the nose. They couldn't even spell CRT a year ago.
     
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    How do you counter the bullshit factory though? It’s a total feedback loop of Facebook, Fox News, and the politicians just circle jerking over and over again.

    In order to counter the CRT talking point, you first have to educate the person on what it truly is. But they don’t really want to know. But they remember that they are being told that it means “I’m inherently racist for being white.” And that offends them. Now they are pissed and you have to counter that with nuanced educated discussion and no one who feels attacked that way wants to hear reasonable shit or feel talked down to.

    Add that to “defund the police” or whatever other self inflicted wound the democrats fail to stop, and the gop wins every time.
     
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    I don't think you can; it's self-sustaining at this point. There will always be enough fellow travelers to reinforce someone's belief and drown out any criticism from the outside. There was an entire crowd of people that turned out in Dallas today expecting JFK Jr to reveal that he's been faking his death for the last twenty years; even the fringe of the fringe is self-sustaining at this point.
     
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    Strange, the original home of the Confederacy has some theories about race and schools that are at odds with reality...

    Virginia is a weird place that imagines itself a Norman Rockwell painting. I'm learning even NoVA isn't as blue as people like to think it is, and it subsidizes the rest of the state.

    Also, no surprises here. Conservatives here are more active voters (especially during an off-year election), and I have a suspicion that a lot of the blue folks in the DC metro area who went fully remote during the pandemic and relocated out of state trimmed the margins enough for a conservative majority.

    Lastly, education is a big deal here. It's the reason Amazon cited it's choice for HQ2 (which is mostly bullshit, but it's what they keep telling folks). So, the CRT in schools thing is not as simple as it may seem. People here seem to think the school system and the economy are closely related, and there's a lot of....controversial views of history that folks would object to if presented in schools.

    Keep in mind, the q-tards are a loud, but tiny minority. Lots of voters here are more aligned with George Bushes, which isn't as much of a leap with Youngkin (as opposed to Trump).
     
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    It's just such a transparently manufactured issue. You could see conservative media focus-grouping different issues last winter as they were looking to give the base something to be angry about so they wouldn't dwell in the "oh fuck what have we done" mindset after January 6. They tried really hard to sell "cancel culture" as a thing and whined about Dr Seuss and Mr Potato Head non-stop, but it didn't stick. Then they found "critical race theory" which is just "forced bussing" for the 21st century, and suddenly voters were very deeply concerned about the racial curriculum of a state that has been deifying Robert E. Lee in textbooks for decades.
     
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    You're not wrong. It's insidiously effective: some voters here cringe at anything suggesting they're racist, or that racism, systemic or otherwise, is a feature of our system. Other, more moderate voters feel strongly about regulating what's taught in schools, ignorant of the fact that most of the curriculum is horrifically outdated. They don't want ANYTHING changed, and again view it as a government overreach or a threat to the goose that lays the golden egg. NoVA property tax is butt-fuck absurd, (my gf's house tax alone is more than my rent) and it mostly goes to the schools, so people feel very invested in them.

    It isn't an issue voters pondered deeply, similar to "defund the police." It was just enough to give them the heebie jeebies.
     
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    I’m not sure what the mystery is. CRT just isn’t popular. If the general public is misunderstanding the concept, the proponents are doing a terrible job of explaining it, which should have been a priority before attempting to ram it down the throats of voters via the school systems. Combine that with McAuliffe running an arrogant campaign on top of it, it’s not really a shock that he lost.

    And what is there to “ponder deeply” about defunding police departments? People don’t want a complete breakdown of law and order because some reform is needed.
     
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    CRT sounds it’s about as real and as threatening as a Mexican caravan. It is fun, however, to watch people for so angry and outraged over something that they don’t even know exists or not. The THOUGHT of it existing angers them enough to Mandela Effect it into reality.
     
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    Anger at school boards and teachers unions have been boiling for some time and to act like this was some purpose built outrage by Fox News for this election is a narrative that cost a milquetoast liberal an election. Plenty of blame to go around but self reflection doesn’t seem to be a part of it. So much energy spent trying to tie him to Trump was a whiff. This electorate was not California’s. If Trump doesn’t run in 2024 then the democrats really have to reevaluate the strategy of painting everyone as Trump clones as the core of their messaging.
     
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    I'm sure they'll claim everyone that voted for Youngkin is a racist and not a learn a thing.