The Tyrells are spectacular. Marjorie is a perfect manipulator, she knows what will work, she exploits it, and she controls her insecurities, something Cersei never figured out. Her mother still puts her to shame. Spoiler She has this planned out to the very last detail, knows exactly what she can and can't get away with, and is loving every moment of it. Danaerys' trade was probably one of the best scenes of the series thus far. book Spoiler I don't remember the trade scene being that awesome in the book. Theon's adventure was so much more brutal and clever than anything at this point in the book, which leaves me wondering if they're going to make GRRM's path for Theon look pleasant by comparison.
Yes yes a very good episode. The only thing I wasn't excited about was Bran's story. Maybe because it has moved at a slower than snails pace which is true as well in the books. Im also not sold on the actor playing Jojen Reed, he hasn't had much meat yet but as good as the casting has been for this show he isn't a highlight. I mean look at the grandmother Tyrell. Fucking spot on cast. She has the look and pulls it off insanely. Tywin's scene was bad.ass. How fucking cold is that motherfucker? Here I thought Balon Greyjoy was cold, this plus he scene with Tyrion in the first episode, shiiiat. I don't know how satisfying it could be to watch Cersi get put in her fucking place. Once again Sansa has reverted to her doe eyed dumb ass self letting Margerie play her like a fucking fiddle. Here I thought she had started to mature under the tutelage of the Tyrion's whore. The whole cave scene with the Hound was kind of out of no where awesome. Just wasn't expecting that storyline to pay off so quick. Also, fuck is Sam going to do? The whole Night's Watch expedition has crumbled into a lawless mess of cutthroat thieves now. Sam's on his own and Jon is off biding his time before he can bang out the redheaded wildling. I was wondering who was doing all the fighting at Craster's? I mean obviously the two turncoats started everything but were there more fighting each other based on their allegiance to Mormont?
Bran's story is tedious, dull, and goes absoltely nowhere. I think it may be the single stupidest thing about the show. Episode after episode: a three-eyed raven. Get close to it. Wake up. Replay for three entire seasons and then some. Get to the point, or at least A point.
Yeah and it's potential for the entire show is kind of limited unlike the zombies and The Others which has also been the slowest story I have ever watched.
Re: Re: Game of Thrones I haven't read the books but this has been my opinion as well, the point to those scenes is what again?
Re: Re: Game of Thrones It's all about that third eye, seeing things that haven't happened or happened far away etc. I forget if they mentioned it before Theon took over Winterfell last season. Bran's abilities were a little more pointed, not much, in the end of the second book then they were in the show. In the books so far Bran has a much bigger role in the politics of Winterfell than they really could do in the show but it gave him a lot more story than they do in the show.
The part I spit beer. Varys & the Queen of Thorns. "Seduce away, it's been so long, although I rather think it's all for naught. What happens when the non existent bumps against the decrepit?"
Ahem...*pushes up glasses* its Margaery bitches. Use Google. As a book reader, I love how they executed Dany's transaction. In the book you see it coming as she has more inner dialogue, in the show they just hit you with it all nice and smooth. The look on everyone's face, especially the slaver's, when they realize she understood everything the entire time was golden. That was excellently acted by those all around. As for the fight at Craster's keep, there were more than those 2 guys that were scared, hungry and cold. Don't forget most of the Night's Watch are criminals and cast-offs, given those circumstances, why wouldn't more guys say fuck this, start fighting knowing you get food, women, and wine? Also, all the story lines go somewhere. Game of Thrones is not a super fast paced show where everything reveals itself in 50 minutes or 2 episodes. The guy with the eyepatch Baric Dondarrion got about 30 seconds of time in the third episode of season 1. Everything is moving puzzle pieces in place, everything is important. This isn't a TV show where the writers are pulling things out of their ass, there is a structure and they're following it pretty damn well. Everything in this show has to do with everything.
I keep wondering about Sansa, and I think she is a more shrewd character than she lets on. She got dealt a shitty hand and is holding out for a better one, doing any and everything she can to stay the fuck alive. Remember the adage: "the only way to win is not to play", and she's not playing. She's learning from Cersei, she almost pushed Joffrey off a fucking cliff (if they got married, how long would that little prick last), and she doesn't have to play to be valuable (beautiful girl with a famous name). I think when she's pushed into the fold, it will be remarkable, and the signs will have been pointing to it all along. Also, does anyone know of a good summary for the books? I read the majority of them five years ago, and I would like to brush up on what happened.
They're not slowing down much right now, that was another solid episode. It's interesting to see Jorah come out of his shell a little bit without being next to Dany for the first time. Maergery's grandmother continues to own in, even talking rings around Tyrion of all people. She's completely magnetic. As is Stannis' daughter. She's wonderful. Why is she locked in a fucking tower room? Are burn victims considered freaks like kids with cheating dads on this show? Baelish has to be the greyest character on this show, I really don't know what he's up to. Whatever it is, he'll have a huge impact on this you can bet on it. Or, he'll die next episode. That's what I love about this show. I DO know he's creepy. Tywin changes his tone so unpredictably each episode. It's awesome. You never know when to love or hate him.
I don't think so. Honestly, the books already had Dany, Arya, and Katlyn as strong female voices. By the end of the second book she had only barely moved beyond her childish naivety. She hated Joffery and the Queen and didn't trust them but only could play the "proper" role hoping somebody else would save her. Spoiler She spent the whole book thinking the drunk she saved at Joffery's name day was going to rescue her and he wound up dead or as an agent of Cerscei's, I forget. This season so far Meargery and Little Finger have played her like a fiddle with no indication she has any idea what the fuck's going on. Now Twyins plotting her future as well. As I remember Stannis' daughter is a leper or has some skin affliction, she was never burned. You'd think being burnt would be an honor in their house. Stannis' wife is an uber creeper. At least I can look forward to that whole story now as the child's relationship with Davos is more intriguing now than Stannis' ED with the Red Witch and jars full of stillborn babies. Also fuck yeah Game of Thrones coming through with some red headed titties! Also, the stunt ass they had for Brienne was pretty, pretty, preeeettty, good. Pretty good. I really do wish Jons story and Sam's or Brandon's would weave back together so we don't have to go three episodes and only get 3 minutes of any of them. Kind of wish Tywin had more screen time too, he gets a single scene per episode that he fucking murders the shit out of. They could do a spin off of him. Show's been awesome.
"You know nothing, Jon Sno-Ohhhh!" Nothing too crazy for this episode, just building slowly. The Baratheon girl's condition is called greyscale. It's like a permanent, more severe chicken pox in that children usually survive, and are immune to contracting it as an adult, which is 99% fatal. There's more in the books about it but I can't remember. Was good to see Jaime finally reveal that secret, carrying something that heavy would burn me up. Also we get to see the continuing Stark tradition of doing the honorable thing even if it means fucking yourself over. I'm waiting for Robb to cut off his dick for leaving his bride-to-be with her dick in her hand (That's a book spoiler but fuck you it's a funny one).
I love the way they're moving with pretty much all the story lines, although my only complaint (and this happens in the books, too) is how stretched thin everything is. Each character really only gets one or two scenes per episode. The funny part is that if you extrapolated that for the entire season, they basically get 30 to 40 minutes or so to tell each character's story. That honestly doesn't seem like even close to enough time to properly develop a character or a story, but this show has been masterful at it. The only storyline I feel gets kind of neglected is everything north of the wall. They could honestly do 4 or 5 episodes of everything that happens with the Nights Watch and north of the wall, but then there wouldn't be time for everything else. I am glad that they skipped on Bran's storyline this week, because it really does drag a lot more than every other storyline. I actually remember kind of liking his chapters in the book, but in the show it just grinds the entire thing to a halt. That is the only one that seems to be dragging, while the rest are advancing at a fairly good pace given how little time they get. It is amazing that they can take a character like Jamie Lannister and slowly, gradually make him more and more sympathetic. The story he gave there explains so much about why he killed the Mad King and what he has been living with, and his plea have Brienne call him Jamie was fantastic and perfectly played.
This became one of my favorite storylines in the book. I know a lot of folks hate Brienne, but I actually have grown to love the character, without her, you don't get one of the best arcs in the books - the redemption of Jaime Lannister. Anyone else finding it hard to resolve the 'I pushed Bran off the tower' with the new Jaime? That dichotomy, among others, has been well played out in the show.
Well "The Things We Do For Love" Jamie's initial line is also a theme they haven't hammered in the show (its there though), and is bigger in the books. Do Kings do things so the people love them? Catelyn kidnapped Tyrion which started the initial war for the love of her son, also let Jamie go (losing the war for Robb in the long run) for love as well. Robb cut the deal with Walder Frey for his love of Talisa. Jamie killed King Aerys for the love of his father. Was Jamie really a bad guy in the first place or did he just do it for love? Just an interesting thing to watch.
DID YOU SEE WHEN BERIC DONDARRION'S FIRE SWORD SET THE HOUND'S SHIELD ON FIRE AND THEN HE BATTERED HIM WITH IT AND CUT HIM IN HALF HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS (This thread needs more fistbumps and less obscure arguments about minutiae at the moment, I feel)
Robb has I think damned himself now. He shattered his army and now he's seeking help from that miserable old pervert from The Twins? Is he eating retard sandwiches like his bitch-faced mom? The north is too dysfunctional and crippled to win this. That was Jaime's best scene yet at harrenhal. The actor sold his inner and outer pain incredibly, you knew the guy had veins of decency and he buried them so well until now.
I hated them at first, but I'm kinda rooting for the Lannisters now. Maybe because the actors kill every scene their in, but they're my favorite faction by far. Robb Stark is boring, Stannis was alright, Dany is, well, I think we all share the same sentiment.