I'd have to say these were the two best parts of the episode. I don't know if Ayra will come around to the Hound any time soon but they'll be entertaining to watch. Tywin and Tyrion's scene after was really good. I could also care less about the meh reconnecting scene of Jaime and Cersai. I honestly hope Brienne is able to reconnect with the main story and she isn't shoved into the background like the brotherhood without banners sort of was. I'd also say I liked the sort of restrained dread in Roose Bolton for his actions. His scene with Walder Frey was great and I got the feeling that he knew his actions weren't going to be totally in his favor forever. I' have to say the editing and transition from his scene to his bastard's scene was well done.
I'm kind of shocked that Joffrey hasn't tried to kill his grandfather yet. Yes, obviously it's an outrageously bad idea, but when has that ever stopped him before? It totally seems like something he would try to do, or at least need to be talked out of.
I am straining to think of a more detestable character ever on TV than Joffery. I think the idea of him trying to kill Tywin is almost too good for him, as a detestable character on a show/series that is known for not giving you what you want, killing Tywin would not be the easy way out. Having no actual power but still using the crown as an excuse to torture people seems about par for the course for this show.
Pfft. Tywin is too bad ass to die. His letter writing runs shit. You think Joffery can do shit to Tywin? We haven't even had a scene with Joff behind a desk. All that kid can do is taunt and punk around women. If Joff thinks about killing Tywin, Tywin will write some letters, and Joff will have a Red Birthday.
Of course he would. I just think Joffrey is, in general, stupid enough to try because "I'm the king and he was mean to me!" And the moral imperative against kinslaying doesn't seem like the sort of thing that would bother him (doubley so for TV show Joffrey, who is somehow more despicable/immature/immoral than book Joffrey).
I haven't read the books but I am hoping Joffery dies painfully next season, hopefully in the first minute. The last episode I remember feeling, meh that was a bit of a waste, also the only time that I can remember wishing I would have just watched Mad Men instead.
Well if you paid attention, this episode had a ton of table settings. They had to show the ripples of all the bloodshed that went down the Sunday before. If you paid attention to what Varys said in his conversation to Shae, you learned a lot about Varys. If you paid attention to Arya's scene, it explains where her story is going. If you noticed anything about the show, it is the best characters are self-made people, or people trying to make themselves, not the ones resting on their laurels or titles put on them. The problem is they can't suddenly introduce things because then people are all like "Well that was stupid, it came out of nowhere." But everyone complains when they table set because they need to for the impact it eventually has, but still aren't happy because they didn't get their fix right now.
I think the only thing I was super unhappy about was Jamie and Brienne just kind of walking off apart. I mean I see all of the things you are pointing out as set up. There was nothing and I hope Birenne isn't regulated to the background. Dani's last scene was the only other part I wasn't thrilled with. Sure her and the new model rapper guy seems interesting. I really didn't give a fuck about these brown people she freed because there wasn't much of a connection to the city or it's inhabitants before hand. The sellswords that model man decapitated were her only real threats and they were dispatched with little regard. Maybe the book had a bigger battle and they had to cut cost for the show (like Tyrion being knocked out in the first season to miss the whole battle he took large part in in the book). They killed a few guards and the city was theirs. If there was a bigger battle it could have been saved for the last episode, could have seen the original city leader again and what happened to him after the city was sacked. Maybe moving the whole battle for the city, as short as it was, to the last episode would have paid off a lot better in the final scene than splitting it between the episodes. I thought it was a great episode. Honestly I think there was just way too much fatigue from the Red Wedding that it was hard for people to trudge ahead with a last episode without some let down.
Yeah, what the fuck really happened in the conquest of Yunkai? Because as far as I know, those three guys got inside of the first courtyard, killed some guys and then returned to tell Dani they conquered the city. Just to iterate, there were only three of them and they took a whole city just because they killed a couple of dozen guards! I know that we are able to read between the lines and we're so accustomed to certain story beats that we kind of know what happens even though not everything is shown. Like Tyrion being knocked out. But I was hoping things might've been cleared up this episode, but nothing was explained. Which is just some grade A bullshit and sloppy storytelling. There wasn't a battle, there was a skirmish and three guys took the city. Yeah right.
Well sorry to disappoint you guys, but that's EXACTLY what happened in the books with the dramatic bullshit taken out. Remember everything is told in the books from Dany's perspective, she stays in the camp. It's not a huge battle, its not an epic thing. Dany gets a report at the end. Jorah leads some guys in, and opens the gates, the slaves revolt, city is hers. Jorah specifically says it in the show since the slaves were the fighters "Just as you said Khaleesi, the slaves laid down their arms." Yep, that's all that happens. Also anyone else notice in the credits that the last city that pops up changed from Astapor to Yunkai?
I just can't wait to see what else Arya is going to get into. Her character development is fantastic.
Yeah I think besides Tyrion she is my favorite character of the show/book. Mostly she's had to survive on her own while trying not to be found out. Her brush with the brotherhood without banners was cool but I think her new dynamic with the hound will be one of the more interesting plots going forward. Im sure her hatred of him will keep the cat and mouse thing going but Im curious to see if she finds the protective side he has for the Stark girls. Maybe he'll come off her list, maybe he won't. Walder Frey has got to be maybe number one now or two after Joffery.
The only contender I can come up with would be Ralph Cifaretto from the Sopranos. Joffrey would get the nod though for fucking up the threesome in season 2, HOW DO YOU FUCK UP A THREESOME?!?!?!
Ralphie was a piece of shit and semi-sadiastic but Joffery has him beat by a long shot. I think the fact that he is a petulant teen with a king complex just tops it off. Threatening to rape your former fiancee on her wedding night and shooting random peasants with a crossbow (don't remember if this was in the battle of the blackwater in the show). Albie Grant is up there. Forcing his mom to marry the former husband of his sister who wants to use genetics to breed incestuously, killing all of the puppies at the compound on christmas, being a psycho closeted homo, etc.
That's a threat. Beating your pregnant mistress to death with your bare hands gets you a metric fuckload of asshole points. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYDbiodGMKk
Is Joffrey asexual or something? I've wondered this for a couple seasons, considering he's a teenage boy and literally can fuck whoever he wishes, his only turn-ons seem to be violence and cruelty. He only seems to show forced attraction to girls. I did think this was the best season yet, and only wets the appetite for season 4 to finish off Storm of Swords. I have a question: the character of "The Mountain" Gregor Clegane: did they simply erase him from the show now? Alothough they can't really, since Tthe characters constantly talk about him but now it seems like he's David Carridine in Kill Bill vol. 1: talked about, but not seen. I haven't read the bookjs, but people who have told me he's a well-known character in the books and basically in non-existent in the show for some reason. In the first season he's played by a seven-foot bodybuilder/pro wrestler named Conan Stevens, who some might recognize as the big Germanic guy who gets his entire face hacked off in Spartacus: Vengeance. Mountain One: Spoiler Mountain Two: Spoiler In season 2, he gets replaced by Tim Whyte, an even taller stuntman who replaced Kevin Peter Hall as "The Predator". He also plays all the White Walkers and the frost giant on the show (that's not CGI with the white walkers, he really is that tall).
He still has a role to play but even in the books you hear about what he's doing but he's not a point of view character. He might have showed up a bit more to this point but again it was more "the mountain did this or that" than actual "screen" time.
Joffrey isn't asexual, he's just young. He's what, 15? Supposed to be around Sansa's age, anyway, and no matter how many crowns you have stacked on your head, girls are going to be scary. It's something he's not good at, but his father was GREAT at. Versus violence, which he is fantastic at, you'd see why he would relish in his prowess at violence more than prowess at sex (of which he has none).