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Guns and Ammo Thread

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by ILikePie, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. effinshenanigans

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    Okay, so I just came upon this and I honestly don't know how it's possible.

    As the comments in the article state, it would take some seriously crazy special effects software to pull off this fake, and many, many hours to get everything to look right. On the other hand, how the bullet isn't deformed AT ALL is, to me, a bit suspect. If the bullet went into the ice about an inch and a half and stopped, there would have to be some deformation, right?

    What do you guys think?
     
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    Could an electromagnet underneath the target area explain how they're able to keep the bullet moving in such a manner?
     
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    I think it's possible, no trickery required.

    The initial frictional heat would melt a bit of the ice, making it an incredibly slippery and smooth area to spin in. And don't underestimate the amount of energy that would be transferred into a spin like that from such a shot.
     
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    Wouldn't the shot have to be taken over a long distance? Well, long in terms of shooting a pistol.
     
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    Yes, but copper flexes. A LOT. At that speed, the bullet--if it didn't deform--would bounce out of that hole like a rocket.

    It's bullshit.
     
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    I don't know, it just seems so difficult to fake. I'm thinking everyone is looking at it the wrong way, like it's still spinning because that is how it came out of the barrel. It might just be spinning because its still hot and the heat difference is bouncing it around on the ice. You ever see metal come in contact with dry ice?



    Maybe it's just the same effect? I don't know. It's still a pretty cool video.
     
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    Looks like mythbusters is going to take a crack at it.
     
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    If you watch the video closely you can see the spot where the bullet impacts, and the spot where they show it spinning are in different places. Look at marks on the ice for reference points. The black circle is the spinning bullet and the red one is the impact site.
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    I'm in the market for an Remington 870 and was wondering what I should do. I'm looking to get one for HD as well as some trap meaning that I'll most likely need two barrels (18"/26"). I've heard the fit and finish on the new Express models is less than spectacular, so I've been looking at used police trade-ins. The problem is that I can get an new Express with a 26" barrel as a used police trade in with an 18" barrel, and the longer barrels cost about $150 more than short ones. So to make a long story short, is the fit and finish on used police trade in worth $150 more than a new Express?
     
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    I don't think so- or at least it depends on how the police shotguns are finished (metal finish and the stock) and what condition they're in. 870's are extremely reliable and durable shotguns, so unless the police shotgun has a special finish and is in great shape, it'll just be more broken-in than a new Express. I own a Wingmaster and if I remember correctly (and I could be wrong), the parts in those shotguns are all milled, and the Express parts are stamped- this basically means the Wingmasters will be slicker out of the box.

    I would buy the new Express and shoot it a bunch- with time it'll be just as smooth as the police shotguns. If fit and finish is your main concern, go find a used Wingmaster. They are made very well and I love mine- and it was $270 a few years ago.
     
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    I'm going to be making five custom stocks this fall/winter of my own design, and here's two of them.

    <a class="postlink" href="http://northernriflestocks.wordpress.com/2010/10/24/laminated-maple-benchrest-stocks/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://northernriflestocks.wordpress.co ... st-stocks/</a>

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    Well, they will be stocks.

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    As usual I'm going overkill on them with engraving, a naval star inlay, and coffin-shaped butts. Ultimately, they'll be designed for accuracy, but they will have some nice touches.
     
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    I will not be breaking into that guys house, he is a very good shot.
     
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    Can chromatic abberation (blurring of the image around the outside edge of the view through a rifle scope) be caused by scope rings mounted too tightly? I've got a Bushnell Trophy XLT on my shotgun that I just mounted and plan on sighting in tomorrow. I'm using Burris Signature rings with the polymer inserts (which, from what I can tell, are included to reduce the strain of the rings on the scope tube). When I mounted the scope, I made sure that the rings were secure, but definitely not over-tightened. Looking through the scope now, I can see that the outside edge of the view is blurred, something that I didn't remember seeing when I looked through it before it was mounted.
     
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    Are you sure you only noticed the problem once the scope was mounted? If you're concerned with the scope tube being stressed, remove the scope and 1. inspect the tube and make certain it's fine and 2. look and see if you've still got the CA issue. Maybe you could give Bushnell a call?

    The Signature rings won't prevent you from overtightening, but the inserts are self-aligning... meaning they will give you 100% contact with the scope tube without any lapping necessary. Most out-of-the-box rings will contact very little of the scope tube itself, so lapping is necessary for them to get a good grip on the scope tube with less stress (think about what causes ring marks).
     
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    Are you sure you only noticed the problem once the scope was mounted?
    I'm pretty sure. I looked through it a bunch of times before I put it on and was amazed at how clear the glass was. I'm sure at some point I would've noticed CA.

    If you're concerned with the scope tube being stressed, remove the scope and 1. inspect the tube and make certain it's fine and 2. look and see if you've still got the CA issue.
    I'm going to take it off tonight and give it a good look-over to see if the tube was affected when I mounted it.

    I swear, if I somehow fucked this scope up before I even had a chance to sight it in, I'm going to be really pissed.
     
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    Gratuitous progress photos of a really nice stock woohoo! Carving and shaping figured wood can be a serious pain in the ass. It's very hard, brittle in spots, dulls blades, and requires lots of patience. I'm dreading fitting the checkered steel buttplate. It will suck.

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    <a class="postlink" href="http://northernriflestocks.wordpress.com/2010/11/10/nice-curves-nice-grain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://northernriflestocks.wordpress.co ... ice-grain/</a>

    I've also got the stock set I'm making for an friend's AK drawn out so the next steps are laminating up a blank and bandsawing some blocks out. There will be some fun challenges posed by inletting the front handguards, but I think I've got it planned out well.
     
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    A pic of me from this past weekend up in VT. My two buddies had never shot a pistol before, so we went to some quarry that looks like a damn battlezone with about a million shell casings and shotgun hulls all over and fired off 150 rounds.
     

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    So I went and sighted in my scope on my new slug barrel this past weekend. Everything was going great until I realized that the cantilever mount is not in line with the barrel--so much so that I ran out of windage adjustment and I'm still putting shots 5-6" to the right @ 50 yards.

    The plus side of it all is that I know how much I need to adjust, and when I do, those Remington Accutip slugs left a ragged hole dead center in the target. Straight-on shots will be slightly difficult, but broadside shouldn't be a problem at all.

    I won't have the time to bring it to anyone before I leave for my trip, but is this issue something that a smith could fix?
     
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    Those Burris Signature rings? This is when they shine! Go get some of the +/- 20 MOA inserts and align that scope the way it should be. I have had the same issue with a rifle before and they work like magic... for cheap!

    <a class="postlink" href="http://swfa.com/Burris-Signature-1-Pos-Align-Offset-Ring-Inserts-C641.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://swfa.com/Burris-Signature-1-Pos- ... -C641.aspx</a>

    Is the cantilever mount attached to the barrel or receiver?