I've got a 20" fixed IC barrel with rifle night sights on my shotgun at home and I have a combo of Brenneke Tactical Home Defense and Federal PD132 in the tube and on a stock shell holder. Both rounds are 2 3/4" reduced recoil and pattern really well with my gun. The reduced recoil is nice for follow-up shots and for practice. I keep it loaded, but not chambered. Buckshot is in the tube, but I keep a few slugs in the shell holder on the stock if I ever need to change one over. That said, reduced recoil doesn't mean that I still won't blow through a wall. The Federal buckshot round has their flite control wad that keeps patterns really tight, and the slug is, well, a slug. If you look at the Brenneke site I linked, you can see that it penetrates about 18" of balistic gel before stopping. The slug is designed so that the plastic wad stays affixed to the slug itself, which results in that reduced penetration. Compared to the Remington AccuTips I use when I hunt (which go through about 36" without thinking twice), it is definitely an improvement in terms of over-penetration, but certainly not any amount of assurance that it won't go through drywall or even a hollow steel door (scroll down to the bottom of the Brenneke page to see that). Regarding bird shot, it's better than nothing. But if someone is in your home, you're not shooting to wound.
Cargasm: That looks like a great holster, workmanship is great, color combination is great...I'm sure it'll last forever. Great choice!
New holster came in the mail today courtesy of fellow board member iguana. Perfect fit and finish. Spoiler
I live alone, and no one else has a key to get in unless they borrow it while I'm out of town. If someone is in my house after dark who either A) Wasn't there before hand, or B) Isn't me then it sucks to be them. If its during the day, then having a chambered round is a non issue because you can see who the person is to avoid any highly unlikely misidentification. Either way safety is always on.
The second it takes to load one in the chamber is worth the added "safety". I never have one in the chamber unless I plan on firing. The dexterity and strength to cock isn't much, but it'll prevent a misfire.
Once again, honest question. If you have a CHL do you carry without one in the chamber? If you did, would you?
I always keep one in the chamber when carrying my pistol on my hip at work. In my car I have a shotgun mounted above my head and an AR in the trunk. Both the long guns are loaded, but are not hot when being stored. This is more a precaution against AD when getting them in and out of the car. The pistol I always have on me and may need to use with a split second. Walking toward a bad guy car and he suddenly jumps out and opens fire? Move, draw, shoot. Any scenario where I have the foresight to choose a long gun would mean I also have ample time to cock it, and probably stick some extra mags in my cargo pocket. If you don't keep your gun hot while carrying it on your person, you watch too much tv.
I always have one in the pipe unless I'm cleaning it, practicing my draw, or I just emptied the mag at an evil piece of paper. Too much can go wrong in a stressful situation when you're trying to draw, flip the safety, rack the slide, aim, and then fire. I've got a thumb safety and a heavy trigger pull on the DA trigger. I'm not worried about an accidental discharge. Remember kids, finger off the trigger makes it safe.
I'm waiting on my out of state Florida permit, as it's valid in the most states. I never have one in the chamber, and don't think it's necessary unless you're a cop. Considering Glocks don't have a safety, I'm still just one step from weapons hot.
What happens if you don't have both hands available? On a different subject, have any of you guys shot a Springfield EMP? A pawn shop near me has one pretty cheap.
If you haven't applied for it yet, don't. Utah just lowered their non-resident permit rates to something like $45. IIRC, FL is still around $100. UT and FL permits give you the exact same states.
Most all of a my firearms have their magazines full. My shotgun and my CC gun have rounds in the chamber and safeties on. A criminal isn't going to give you time to knock off the safety, if equipped with one, and chamber a round. Might as well just throw your CC piece at them.
If you're concerned about taking an irresponsible or rushed shot because you have the round chambered, isn't clicking the safety off as much as a conscious decision to fire the gun as racking a shell in the chamber? Assuming your firearm has a mechanical safety (in addition to the real one, your finger).
I'm a city cop in Indiana. I don't live in Bloomington anymore though as my profile states. I still maintain that if you have a gun on your person that it should be hot. I can't comment on the safety issue because I carry a glock which doesn't have the traditional button safety. In shotgun training we were instructed to put the safety on before switching hands or moving from cover to cover. I have never deployed the shotgun in a real life scenario before.
I've never carried before since Georgia allows you to have one in your glove compartment without a permit. But now that I'm applying for my CCW, I'm kind of stuck on the best holster. I don't want to be one of those asshats that walks around with their holster out, showing off their gun like we're in a Western. Why not just wear a sandwich board with a bull's eye? Hip holsters don't seem to conceal very well, and I like the small of back but I've heard several drawbacks to it.
http://crossbreedholsters.com/ You can't go wrong with one of these. The supertuck can fit anywhere IWB that you want it and it is adjustable based on how you like to draw.
It kind of comes down to what is comfortable for you and what you plan on carrying. I've got a friend that doesn't like IWB holsters and carries a LC9 outside on his hip. It's still small and easily concealed with a little bit of a longer shirt and is what he finds comfortable. I've carried a full size xd, a full duty size sig and a compact Kahr IWB in holsters I've made at 3-4 o'clock with no problem, and I'm not a very big guy, and have been fine. I've made small of the back holsters for a couple of friends and while they conceal very well, they aren't good for sitting/driving a lot and tactically they pose a threat if you find yourself thrown to your back. They love them, but they also don't sit at a desk all day. Anything you wear will be uncomfortable to a point, but after a couple of days your body should start working around it as the nerves get used to it. One other thing to think about is if your state has a "concealed means concealed" provision in the law. In Ohio we can open carry, and it is also written into the CCW law. So, here, if your shirt accidentally comes up while you're reaching for a shelf at walmart you're fine. In Texas that will get you a swift trip to the slammer for brandishing. If you have any other ? you can PM me. tl:dr Find what is comfortable and then dress around that, not the other way around. J
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