Does anybody have one of these? I have a Fobus paddle (roto) for my Glock 26, and was wondering what they're IWB is like.
Friday gun porn: It's a Winchester M52B .22, or at least that's what they started with. Spoiler I've got my CZ 452 almost fully inletted so I can start shaping it to be my simplified version of that rifle. After the necessary drilling I've done all of the inletting with hand tools. That shotgun stock isn't looking too bad either. I get to shatter some clays with it on Sunday!
Got down to my local range on the weekend for the first time in ages. Still don't have my own rifle yet but the club i want to join are real friendly, so they soon found someone i could share with. I had started out being interested in fullbore target shooting but there were too many people already doing that on Saturday so they popped me with the F-class shooters, and now i think ill be getting into F-class. Its so much more forgiving for an amateur than fullbore is. Here's the rifle i was shooting, couldn't tell you much about it other than its a .308 and it was beautiful to shoot (its a complete custom job and i didn't get much of a chance to speak to the owner about it). Did pretty well, came third overall in our group, but thats largely due to the assistance i was getting from the rifles owner (hes the guy on the scorecard directly above me, im the bottom shooter)
Ruck-zuck motherfuck-ers! I bought another musket today; a Steyr M1895 long rifle made in 1919. Chambered in 8x56mmR. Traded a Remington 710 .30-'06 for it.
Nice trade... that beast looks great! Old steel and hardwoods ALWAYS trump plastic in my book. I finished the Long Tom shotgun over the weekend and it's being picked up today. Kinda bittersweet to let it go home, but that's how it goes. A couple before/afters: Spoiler I finally nailed down the exact manufacturer (finally) and a historian for them had this... the exact ad in the Fall 1916 Sears, Roebuck catalog the gun was originally purchased from. Pretty cool if you ask me. Spoiler
A buddy of mine got mugged in St Louis over the weekend and got roughed up a bit. I suggested a CCW, yet he insists he's better without one. I'm not sure where the level of trust, some may call it naïveté, came from for strangers. Do you really trust a stranger over your personal safety?
Yeah, because a split second delay is the same as not carrying? I also don't carry at all times, which is probably against some hillbilly creedence, but I dont care.
I am not sure about some "hillbilly creedence", but this is my out look on it. Why would you carry at some times and not others ( excluding non carry zones ), either you feel it is always needed or it isn't and if you take the time to complete a CHL class obviously some part of you thinks it is necessary. Does that same split second apply to a seat belt, most of the time you drive you might not be involved in a accident but that one time you are it might save your life. Personally I don't care if you carry the damn thing empty, I'm just trying to understand the thought process behind it.
Kiss my ass a split second. Do you honestly believe, deep down in your heart of hearts, that a murderous motherfucker is going to announce himself between the time that he sees you as a target and the time that he acts on it? Seriously? The number that I've heard is three shots, three seconds, three meters. Then it's done. Do you or anyone else want to be the one trying to rack a bullet while this is going on? That's like saying you'll put on your seatbelt right before you get in a wreck.
I'll just leave this here: If you haven't seen it, the relevant part is that Adam had to un-holster, and rack the slide. At 20 feet he still loses. eta: He is open carrying and this isn't accounting for the time it takes to locate and remove your weapon if you are carrying concealed. Not to mention if you have sufficient training/muscle memory to react at all. J
Of all the people I know who've been mugged or assaulted, I can't think of any of them who would have been helped overly if they'd been carrying a handgun with a chambered round and safety off at the time of the assault. Any attacker with a brain will target victims who aren't expecting it. All the firepower in the world is no defense against a guy with a rock who you aren't expecting to hit you. Statistically, the owners and family of fire arms owners are much more likely to be harmed by a gun related accident than a random person is to be harmed by violent crime - and the reality of self defense is that a gun isn't a perfect defense so for gun ownership to be safer than the alternative, you'd need violent crime to be vastly more prevalent than it actually is. Gun ownership makes you feel powerful and makes you feel in control. It's really fucking fun. But it's not a safety choice for the vast majority of people. For a tiny, tiny minority of people with high risk lifestyles and careers (drug dealers, cops, feds), owning a gun might make those people actually safer if they put in the time and training to be skilled. For an even tinier minority of people who put in vastly more time, effort and care into being a gun owner than most, it might not make you any less safe. But the reality according to every independent agency that collects statistics about residents of every first world country is that for 99% of civilians - owning a gun is a dangerous hobby - But it makes you and your family less safe. I'm not casting stones here - I have a shitload of dangerous hobbies. I do dangerous things for entertainment all the time. But I also understand the difference between taking steps regarding my own safety, and doing fun dangerous things. Doesn't sound to me like your buddy is at all naive. Sounds to me like he's got a pretty solid grasp on the reality of gun ownership and risk. I'm obviously not arguing against gun ownership (never in this thread). I'm just saying you should probably be honest with yourself about why you own that weapon. If you really think you own the gun because it's safer to own than to not own it - and you aren't involved in law enforcement or criminal enterprise? None of the accepted research supports that belief. * I will admit that for people outside of urban centers, there are cases where having a gun might protect you enough from bears or whatever that it's an overall safety improvement. But it's still a dangerous tool to keep around your house, and maintain that it certainly doesn't make you safer from people.
How exactly did it happen? Was he jumped by multiple guys? Did he see it coming? I can definitely see his POV if he was caught unawares, he'd have still got bashed and the situation could have possibly escalated past that when they found his weapon. Worst case they shoot him with his own gun, best case hes just armed some fucking thugs that will now use that weapon on another poor schmuck.
This. A few years ago I was robbed at gun point in Memphis. I was a passenger in my brother in law's pick up and we were parked at a gas station. He went in to pay for his fuel while I stayed in the truck. Out of the blue, I had a .38 pointed at my head and a very sketchy and nervous dude was demanding money. I gave him the $50 or so I had on me and he went away. Under my seat I had a loaded .357 Rossi and my brother in law had a loaded 9mm of some sort under his seat. We had way more firepower, but I was at a severe disadvantage...he caught me by surprise and there wasn't a damn thing I could do about it without this twitchy mother fucker pulling the trigger. I honestly thought about shooting him as he ran off, but sometimes I do think lucidly and quickly decided that $50-60 wasn't worth the hassle of sitting there all night answering questions as to why I was carrying a firearm without a permit or worrying about his buddies that may be hiding in the weeds that may fire back. Besides that, I'm not quite sure I'm ready to live with myself for killing someone over something as trivial as a few dollars. I can't say this really has anything to do with the chambered/unchambered debate because the Rossi is a revolver. But say you have a conceal carry and a loaded weapon with you in the same scenario...what do you do?
I give him my money and walk away alive. Even if you have a carry permit and a loaded weapon you really only want to pull it when IF you can do something. In the scenario you described I can't see getting the gun out in time to do any good.
Unless you're Jason Bourne, you do exactly what you did. Maybe you'd be able to lean down and grab the gun from under the seat, saying that your wallet had fallen on the floor. But chances are, before you would've had a chance to bring the gun up, Mr. Twitchy would've figured out what's going on and turned your face into a Jackson Pollock work. Maybe, if you felt like ruining the door of your friend's truck, you could've shot through the door at him. But over $50, that's not an intelligent option by any means, and there's no guarantee that it still wouldn't result in bullets flying back at you as the guy fell--if you hit him. You were caught unaware and you handled the situation well. No gun on or near you would've improved that outcome. From the way it sounds, if the guy had, say, walked across the parking lot towards the front of the truck looking like a tweaking tourettes patient and you had grabbed the gun and brought it up, the situation may have still ended with bullets flying over the $50 in your wallet. Or maybe the guy would've just chosen the old woman walking out of the store with a Big Gulp instead. Who knows.
No shit. To steal from Bill Burr, that's like saying if you have a pool in your backyard it increases your odds of drowning. While I'll agree that a gun isn't a perfect defense (I don't think anyone has ever made the argument that it is, but whatever) but I'll strongly disagree that you need violent crime to be more prevalent for it to be worth it. Having a gun for self-defense is worth it for me because I feel like my life is worth protecting, regardless of the rate of violent crime in the area I'm in. [/quote] You think guns are dangerous when in reality it's the person holding the gun that is dangerous. You can try to compare owning a gun to other dangerous hobbies but the fact of the matter is that a gun will never "just go off" unless you do something to make it go off. Sure, guns CAN have serious malfunctions that can harm the operator, but those are few and far between, almost all gun related accidents are operator induced. The argument isn't that you should whip out your gun at the first sight of trouble, and you can throw out hypotheticals about how guns aren't advantageous if your taken by surprise, but that isn't the argument. If I'm in a situation where my life is in danger and a gun can benefit me, I'm going to be prepared.
I took a couple of my milsurps out yesterday: my SMLE No4mk1 and my Vz.98/22 Mauser. The No4 I originally acquired as a sporter back in 2007. It had an ATI plastic stock, a B-Square no-drill mount with a Redfield 1.75-5x, and no bolt or magazine, but for$90 I took a chance because it had an excellent bore. I shot it with a bolt and mag from my dad's No4mk2, but the scope crosshairs turned out to be damaged, and the rifle just sat in the closet doing. The donor rifle turned out to be a horrible shooter; the rifling was great but it was severely pitted, and threw rounds all over the place. Pop let me scavenge the bolt, magazine, stock, handguard, micrometer sight, front sight guard, sight blade, and ejector screw to replace the missing parts on my rifle and bring it back to original spec. Someone carved finger grooves in the buttstock, but I bought a replacement one via Gunbroker and it should be here Friday. Before: After: I forgot my usual sandbag, and had to make a rest out of a length of 4"x4" timber and a car floormat. At the range I was having trouble getting rounds on target using the micrometer peep sight. Its lowest setting is for 200m, so I was using a 6 o'clock hold at 100yds to try to get rounds in the center of the 9" paper plates I use for targets. I was shooting 1966 FN-made 174gr FMJ. But it turned out that POI at 100yds was dead level with my POA, just 3" to the left. I'm not sure why this is, but I'll drift the front sight over and it should make a really fun range gun. For my last 5 .303 shots I found a silhouette target someone else had patched up but not used, and I tacked it up to make things more fun. The white tape is covering my shots. The red circles are my shots with the No4. All the rest are from the Mauser, whose minimum sight setting is 300m. I fired 45 rounds total of 1961 Yugo 196gr FMJ 7.9x57mm. Those holes not patched are my last group with the Mauser on the bench. And this last pic is of 15 rounds I fired as fast as I could: 5 leaning, 5 offhand, and 5 kneeling. It was bad, but at least I didn't miss the silhouette.
Um, yeah. The lowest setting may be 200m, but they left off a "0" so it just says 20 all the way up to 200 on there. When I first shot mine, I started out with the target 100m away so I slid the sight to what read "100". I didn't hit shit all day. I'd basically have to aim at the dirt to hit the target. After doing a little research, I found out about the abbreviated markings. Shooting at something 100 meters away when you've got your sight set on the 1000 meter mark makes for a very clean sheet of paper. /facepalm