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Guns and Ammo Thread

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by ILikePie, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. katokoch

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    Nah, he could just have a bunch of buddies with ARs and want him to join the club. I'd call buying a half a dozen lowers and a pallet of surplus ammo "panic" buying.

    Have fun with your AR Cargasm!

    Speaking of buying lots of ammo, this is fucking ridiculous: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-facing-jail--having-large-cache-bullets.html Up to two years in jail for having 40,000 rounds of .22 ammo- for pistol competitions. Makes me want to buy a brick today just because I can.
     
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    This. Although getting in before the buying sprees drive up prices was a bonus.

    Since we're on the subject of stocking up, Sportsmansguide.com has a good deal on Federal 9mm JHP 147gr, about $.30/round when you buy a case. Has anyone bought from them with good/bad experiences?
     
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    Taking this here...

    I am really curious now what SHOT 2013 will look like. Do you think it's a matter of companies just seeking new growth with the tactical look (and retaining the traditional stuff as a cash cow), or just totally moving over to black plastic and paint?
     
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    It's neither. First, while shooting and more to the point, gun ownership is continuing to grow, traditional reasons for owning a firearm or multiple firearms has changed somewhat. Second, the face of the hunter has changed.

    Home defense and personal protection have both become buzzwords over the past decade as more and more states offer concealed carry permits. Whether the world is a safer or more dangerous place is another conversation entirely and it is an election year. When someone applies for a permit and receives one, he wants to buy a gun. Traditionally, first time gun buyers or returning gun buyers don't want to spend too much money and this explains why the Glock/Springfield/S&W market seems to grow endlessly. $500 will get you in the door and a shopper can buy the same handgun in any size from target to subcompact. If the buyer does any research, he realizes that his life is incomplete without an AR or shotgun and he adds to his collection. So, instead of a family owning an 870, a M77 .30-06, and a S&W .38, a family owns a model 500 tactical, a Bushmaster AR, and a Glock 19. Additionally, each of these firearms are endlessly accessorized as anyone with eyes will know. Personalization is huge in any industry if it can be done. It just so happens that the modular nature of modern firearms means that parts can be added to the heart's content.

    So, what does that mean for the hunter? If the hunter population was growing, it wouldn't mean much at all. The classic model would remain and everyone would be happy. However, that isn't the case as hunter numbers are falling every year. This isn't the whole story, however. The hunters who are dropping out were most typically guys who hunted a few times a year for multiple species- doves in the early fall, deer, ducks, squirrel, quail, etc. Their reasons for leaving are usually pretty simple- no place to hunt, expense, lack of mentoring, etc. That's not to say that there isn't business in the hunting market. The hunters who remain are becoming more species specific. Duck hunters hunt ducks and don't hesitate to spend money on a $1,500 waterfowl specific shotgun and a $15,000 duck rig. With longer and more complicated deer seasons than ever, deer hunters can spend six months focusing on deer hunting in one way or another. Interestingly, women are still a blip on the radar as a growing sector.

    I think this is why you see the advertising that you do in the hunting end of it. The motto has changed from "Spend a weekend with Remington" to "Remington. Because you have to be there." or some such. Hunting has shifted to something like an identity more than a pastime.
     
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    I can get a pretty good deal on a FNH FiveSeven, pistol and 3 mags with 100 rounds for $950.

    I don't think I am going to buy it though, just checked ammo availability and prices, shits crazy expensive to shoot. Anybody here have one?

    Most likely end up going with my original plan and get a Kel-Tec PF9 and put some of the left over cash towards my concealed carry permit.
     
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    I think BakedBean has one, if I recall.
     
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    Danger Boy? I think he's mentioned shooting vermin around his place with one of those.
     
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    You can buy a more than adequate 9 mm and a .17 hmr or .22 for the same money. The Five-Seven is a neat idea, but I have a hard time seeing the practical purpose of the gun, especially when it's difficult to keep it fed.
     
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    Sorry, yeah, it was DangerBoy.
     
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    Re: Re: Guns and Ammo Thread


    Yeah I am going to go with my original plan and get a 9 mm from kel tec, I'd like another 1911 but it's time to own something other than a .45.
     
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    Just a suggestion to look into, but I have a Kahr CW40 that I am very pleased with. They also make a "cm" series that is half the size if you are looking at something in a pocket size. Both come in 9/40. There's also a CW in .45 if you are looking to keep ammo variables down. No saftey, just a double action trigger that feels like a revolver, no loading, just a constant pull to the break. CW's run around 350.00, CM's around 400.

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    Put a good laser on one and you'll use it more than you think. 5.7's are tack drivers and they'll reach out twice as far as a 9mm/.40/etc. I keep one in my truck and I've lost track of how many critters I've cleaned up with it. It's a bit expensive, but it's fucking effective.
     
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    My old man managed coveys of quail with a Ruger 10/22…. From a pickup window. Lasers are poor substitutes for fundamentals and practice. I would never suggest one under most any circumstance.
     
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    It's a fucking varmint gun. When I need to aim a pistol after running through a road ditch and across a field in the dark after something that's hauling ass, I like to have a little help. I have a 10/22 as well, and only use open sights on it, but when a coyote unexpectedly comes running across the road in front of my vehicle (it's happened three times in the last two months) I don't have time to get out the rifle.

    Also, shooting from a pickup window is easy. Probably why it's illegal.
     
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    So, you're putting a laser on a running coyote... At night?
     
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    Yes.
     
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    Tips on purchasing a rifle? Specifically a Remington 700 .308. I'm looking to get a decent deal on a gun, plus I have to wade through all this permit stuff. Can I purchase the rifle in another state?
     
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    You can purchase in another state, but it has to ship to a dealer in your home state: http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicensed-persons.html#out-of-state-firearm
     
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    Aren't you from Alabama? If this is a Christmas present, just buy it there if you go home for Christmas. If not, check out budsgunshop.com. They have good prices and can probably help you on any paperwork you will have to do.

    They also have lists of FFL holders that will transfer the firearm to you, in your current state.
     
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    I am from Alabama but will be going to Texas for Christmas (sister with huge house and other family members there). I figure Texas or Alabama should be good states to buy in. I guess I need to talk to a dealer here and then purchase in TX. Lots to look into! Thanks for the link, too.