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Guns and Ammo Thread

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by ILikePie, Oct 20, 2009.

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    Re: Re: Guns and Ammo Thread

    If you have time check PSA's warehouse/retail store in SC, takes about an hour from south Charlotte to get there. Call first to check stock and go early. You can buy long rifles being a sister state but if you buy just a lower I'm pretty sure that will not work out because almost all are marked "multi" which would mean pistol type purchase.
     
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    I was thinking about going down there, good to know on the lowers, that sucks because I was hoping to avoid FFL transfer fees.

    Everywhere I looked they have been out of stock or exorbitantly overpriced. Not that I was expecting anything different.

    None of you have a spare lower laying around do you?
     
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    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2013/04/28/background-checks-ballot/2119325/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/poli ... t/2119325/</a>

    Holy shit if you can generalize like this in the media today and have it accepted as fact we are all fucked. The "gun show loophole" strikes again.
     
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    I currently own a 336 Marlin in 35 caliber. It's a great gun, but I don't hunt, the ammo is expensive and hard to find, and I don't know any ranges in my area that will allow me to shoot it. Usually there's a caliber limit, unless I'm either mistaken, or not investigating the right place to go. I'd like to shoot for fun and maybe even competitively, but I also like the lever action style, so no bolt action types please. The gun is in great condition and is an older model as it only has a half cock safety and I'm pretty sure I could get 275 to 300 for it.

    Does anyone have any suggestions as to what I could trade it for, or if I should for that matter? Part of me hates to let it go. It belonged to my father, but that's the only sentiment attached to it. It's not like he used it all that much or we went out shooting together, it just happened to be his, and I still have his 12 gauge which I will never get rid of.
     
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    Some ranges have a caliber limit and some have a muzzle velocity limit. Check with your range to see what their specific rules are.

    My range had a fire last summer and now they don't allow any steel case ammo or any bullets that will stick to a magnet. It all varies from range to range. Your best bet is to find an outdoor range. They usually have few, if any, ammo restrictions.
     
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    Got bored tonight and made a new strap for my range bag, I am sure you all know this but paracord straps and pull tabs are ridiculously easy to make.

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    So what's the deal with this stuff? My cousin gave my brother some and it was unbraided neither my brother or I really knew what it was for or heard about it. We went to a gun show that same weekend and every tacticool person or seller had it. Did Seal Team Six invent it to assault Bin Laden compounds?
     
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    I buy it in 300' rolls from Amazon, if you camp or hunt the stuff can be very handy to have except most people just wear "survival" bracelets. I have used it for tent tie downs, camping clotheslines, fish stringers, all kinds of shit. The quality stuff is rated at around 500 lb test, I have never had more than 100 lbs on a single line.

    Braiding the cord is just a hobby of mine, its a cool way to carry around sizable lengths of cord that actually serves a purpose. Axe handles, knife handles, the stuff is pretty versatile, this guy is insane for paracord <a class="postlink" href="http://stormdrane.blogspot.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://stormdrane.blogspot.com/</a>

    I wrapped a Maglite just to see how it would turn out.

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    So when it's braided like that does it support tanks from helicopters?
     
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    That's what I heard. That high capacity paracord can also be used to for hangings, making bombs, and for strangling people.

    Common civilians have no use for that military grade rope. It should be banned.
     
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    Re: Re: Guns and Ammo Thread

    That's why I am stockpiling it, gonna make out like a bandit when the paracord shortage hits.
     
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    RIP Tom Knapp <a class="postlink" href="http://www.startribune.com/sports/outdoors/205490811.html?refer=y" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.startribune.com/sports/outdo ... ml?refer=y</a>
     
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    An acquaintance procured a milsurp Underwood (receiver and barrel) M1 carbine, returned to the USA after a stay in Israel via Century Arms. Everything looks good except for the missing oiler. Also, is the extractor only supposed to engage when the round is fired, or is it supposed to remove the round from the chamber when the bolt's operated manually? Anything that someone should look out for on these rifles?
     
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    More checkering. This is another walnut 10/22 stock... one that required some repair after I tried checkering it last year- and failing. It is relatively soft wood and has been a pain in the ass to cut straight lines in.

    I have the lines in the fore-end patterns all laid out and half the grip pattern too. I still have to go over all the patterns several times yet but they are looking good so far.

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    Checkering looks a hell of a lot better when the diamonds start to get sharp.

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    I'm actually really proud of that grip pattern there because it is the most complicated design I've done yet and execution is going well (so far). I'm rarely this satisfied with my work.
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    I have about four hours in that one grip pattern and three in the fore-end pattern. At least one more hour of work needs to be put into both. Then there's the other side of the stock...
     
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    I couldn't rep you but that kind of finishing work is insane, it's an art form for sure.

    I know a bunch of gunsmiths around here that'll do just about anything for you, except for checkering and custom stock work.
     
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    Thanks! Checkering is great because it is both 100% functional and allows lots of artistic embellishment. Can't say the same for lots of other things.

    It's very difficult to specialize in custom stockmaking work and make it profitable, and difficult to do quality custom work without specializing in it, so most general gunsmiths won't touch it.

    From the Drunk thread...

    I know you can get 80% 10/22-style receivers with a parts kit and instructions, no FFL or check needed. Then again it is only 80% complete.

    It sounds like the plastic guns can function for only 10 shots or so. Enough to do some damage, but fuck sakes I would never pull the trigger on something like that. I've handled 3D-printed stock prototypes (for a bullpup design rifle) with printed springs too, and it was surprisingly tough- but not enough for actual use. Printers today can use materials like sintered steel and titanium but I don't know if that's enough to withstand extended use.

    Don't worry, you can still make a functioning zip gun with stuff from a hardware store and a few hours at a fraction of the cost of these 3D printed things (don't let Sen. Feinstein know or we'll have to get a license to walk into Home Depot). Thus I think these 3D things are way overhyped- for now.
     
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    The receiver or the lower is the part with a serial number. If it has a serial number, and you're buying from a retailer, you have to fill out a 4473 in order to take it home. If you're selling them, they have to be serialized and shipped to an FFL dealer. If you're producing receivers, there is some type of manufacturer's registry that you have to go through with the Feds.

    You ARE allowed to make your own receiver for personal use without having your business registered, but it's for personal use only. It cannot be sold or gifted and I THINK there is a way to report making one, but there isn't a National Firearms Registry, so if you can explain how that works, I'm all ears. You cannot make a NFA firearm for personal use and get around the law. So, you can't make a rock n' roll SBR with a parts kit and a milled receiver. Not that anyone would dream of doing such a thing.
     
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    Ok that I get, no 80% lower I have looked at so far in person has a serial number or any marking whatsoever other than the manufacturer.
     
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    Re: Re: Guns and Ammo Thread

    Right. Basically, the BATF does not view an 80% lower as a firearm. However, you must do the work yourself to make it a firearm (in the eyes of the ATF). If you took an 80% lower to a gunsmith or even a buddy and he completed the lower for your, technically you are breaking the law.