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Guns and Ammo Thread

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by ILikePie, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. Mantis Toboggan M.D.

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    Yeah, I'll be in Monterey County...not gonna happen.
     
  2. katokoch

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    I've progressed enough on shaping the CZ 452 stock that I can check out what the figure and color may look like with some mineral spirits brushed onto the stock. I also drew some potential checkering patterns on it with a white pencil. No stain- this is the natural color.

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    I had to re-make the bottom metal. I managed to drill the holes in the new blank guard correct this time but still have to do the cutout for the magazine. Not exactly something I'm looking forward to.[​IMG]

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    For contrast, this is the stock sanded and dry. Splashing some mineral spirits onto an almost-finished stock after it has looked like shit for a long time feels good. It weighs 6 lbs. as-photographed and is balanced like my Winchester- right on the front receiver ring, so they will carry and point similarly. This rifle is just lighter but has an appropriate amount of heft.

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    I'm still about 75% done with the stock so there is much work left to do, but it's a relief when it finally looks and feels like I envisioned it would.
     
  3. Backroom

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    Glock 27 finally arrived at the local gun shop. Only had to wait 6 months, and that was just the Law Enforcement list.

    Looking for a good conceal carry holster (in or out of the pants, the gun is small enough where I don't care either way). Also looking for a laser for it, since I have disposable income, and I'm awesome.

    I also have a Charles Daly (which I've heard is actually made in Turkey and rebranded) semi auto 12 guage (3"), looking for a pistol grip and a shorter barrel. Looked around a bunch of places and can't find anywhere to pick them up, anyone know about a site with a deep inventory?
     
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    Get one of these, best holster I own. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/SuperTuckDeluxe" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.crossbreedholsters.com/SuperTuckDeluxe</a>
     
  5. lhprop1

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    Also check out this guy's holsters. They're the same as crossbreed, but the horsehide model is $20 cheaper. <a class="postlink" href="http://theisholsters.com/products.php" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://theisholsters.com/products.php</a>
     
  6. katokoch

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    I shot in a rimfire benchrest match on Sunday and had a great time. I was two points away from a 250/250 score on the second of three targets. Next time!

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    Both misses on this target were due to me mis-reading the wind conditions (got bit by switching winds downrange- one that I should have noticed and one that was invisible). This makes me super happy because 1. My rifle is shooting MUCH better than it did last year, after all of the work I did to it since then and 2. No doubt it has the potential to shoot solid 250s and now it's all on me and my ability. Shot at 50 yards with Eley Match .22lr ammo.

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    I love this range. It is just across the river from me in Wisconsin and tucked away in a small patch of pine woods. It's nice and somewhat sheltered from heavy wind by the trees but the downside is when the flags are dead, making you think there is no wind moving and it's safe to fire away, you are inevitably wrong. Seems a few larger spaces between the trees is good for creating invisible wind demons. It keeps you on your toes!

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  7. The Dread Pirate

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    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.ravenconcealment.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.ravenconcealment.com</a>

    Get the Phantom or Vanguard II depending on how you want to carry. My EDC is a VTAC M&P 9mm w/ Surefire X300 (a pretty big gun) and it is easily concealed with a Phantom LC holster. You'll be placing this amazing rig on an Ares Gear Ranger Belt because it's better than leather and will help you conceal tighter to your body.

    I don't mean to knock others' suggestions, but Crossbreed is just "meh." It's not bad, but it's not blow your hair back amazing either. Raven is the best on the market. Spend the extra $50 and get a holster which will last forever and is professional grade (also that fits a Surefire X300U because you are responsible and will purchase a high-quality weapon mounted light to carry on your gun).

    I also have a VG2 and it's money if you want to do AIWB carry. That said, I don't point a gun at anything I'm not willing to destroy so having my muzzle resting on my junk is not an option in my book. But if AIWB floats your boat, you really can't go wrong with a VG2.

    Lasers are also "meh" for CCW rigs. Odds are a CCW shoot is going to be an entangled gunfight or a gunfight under 7 yards. Lasers really don't have a place in that type of fight. But if you're going for the "looks cool factor" then by all means spend the extra money.

    However, you'd be better served spending that money on high-end gear and a class showing you how to use it correctly. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.greygrouptraining.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">www.greygrouptraining.com</a> has a bunch of quality ones listed for 2013 and 2014. Southnarc/Shivwork's ECQC is a must-take for anyone who takes CCW seriously.
     
  8. archer

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    Got to shoot my new Remington 700 VSF on the weekend. It was a 1000 yard f-class club comp and i did pretty poorly score wise (but i expected that with a factory barrel and ammo).

    I was just happy to finally get to shoot my own rifle.


    Back down to 300 yards next week so that should be better.
     

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    In that pile of 17 1/2 bandoleers is 1,231 rounds of Turkish surplus 7.9x57mm. It cost me $144.
     
  10. katokoch

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    My warranty replacement scope from Leupold arrived today. A new 40x Competition series scope with a fine crosshair reticle.

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    The damn thing is huge. Can't wait to shoot it!
     
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    With the new scope, this rifle is producing the best targets I've ever shot.

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    This was shot indoors at 50 yards while tuning the rifle up. The center ring measures .25" and if each row of targets was a 5 shot group, the 5x5-shot groups would have averaged .201". One click on the scope and it would have been a 250-20x target, and that shit will win matches. Not bad for a rifle I built in my basement.

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    I just added this to the stash. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.laxammo.com/ammunition/handgun-reloads/reloaded-9mm-115gr.-500rds-w--ammo-can/22-227" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.laxammo.com/ammunition/handg ... can/22-227</a>
     
  13. katokoch

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    I shot in a match today and kept my third target clean until bull #25. I blew the last. fucking. shot. on the target. So close to having my first 250 in a match.

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    This was the view through the scope on that target. 50 yards away. The 10-ring measures 1/4" diameter.
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    Can't wait for my next opportunity to nail that 250.
     
  14. effinshenanigans

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    Slickguns has some reasonable looking ammo deals, among other things, for those looking to add to their stock.
     
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    I have wanted to get into target riffle shooting for a while now. I currently have a target pistol (CZ IPSC, which by the way I don’t think I have anyone mentioned that on here is IPSC shooting). I love shooting riffle when I get a chance. I have settled on 308win for my round, because of the accuracy and seem to be cheap to reload, any other rounds I should look at? I want to start saving for the future, so I have a couple of questions.

    First the riffle. From what internet research is worth, I have narrowed it down a bit. Tikka T3 Tac, but it is over my price range, seems to run 1800 dollars. The Remington 700P, 700 milspec 5r, Remington 700 XCR tactical long range, and the Sako A7 they are all around 1200-1400. I would love the Sako TRG-22, but that is way the fuck out of my price range. The 700 milspec 5r seems to be the best but since it is a limited run every once and a while, finding one is a pain in the ass thou I have found one right now but it is not the right time to buy one. Have any of you guys shot any of these riffles, should I look out for any other ones?

    Next Optics, I don’t know a whole lot, but enough to make me dangerous. I know Leupolds are the best, but can get very expensive. What brands do you guys like that actually last, I have heard horror stories about cheaper scopes not lasting. I know scopes are marked 1x12x40, I know the 12 stand for the magnification, and the 40 is the diameter of the scope. What does the first number mean, and I presume the bigger the third number the more light it will let in and the better you will see in low light. Anything else I should know, and for daylight target shooting, what power of scope would you recommend. What brands do you guys have and like?

    Anything else you guys would like to add?

    Thanks.
     
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    I can tell you that I paid significantly more money for my Leupold than I did for the rifle its mounted on. They are great scopes.
     
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    I shall preface this by saying i am an absolute amateur, however i have just gone through all this myself to get myself setup shooting f-class target rifle (shooting out to 1000 yards prone).

    Rifle:
    The advice i got was to start out with a Remington 700 and upgrade as you go from there. The popularity and prevalence of the r700 action means there are a lot of options for you when you inevitably upgrade parts. I went with the Remington 700 VSF and i got it paired with a McMillan A5 stock in the deal for a very reasonable price. I am very happy with it thus far but i know ill need to upgrade the barrel from the factory one to be truly competitive.

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    I spent longer looking at optics than i did for the rifle. The advice i got from this board was great (katokoch gave me some great options from Leopuld for quite good prices... i can dig those out if you want... PM me if you do) but in the end i went with a suggestion from some of the guys down at my rifle club and went with this: <a class="postlink" href="http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vortex-viper-pst-6-24x50-ffp-riflescope-with-ebr-1-moa-reticle" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.vortexoptics.com/product/vor ... oa-reticle</a>

    It has a really crisp sight picture and with the very reasonable mid ranged pricing (and it comes with a lifetime warranty) it was a no brainer for me after a long time searching.

    If you are just going to be using the rifle at the range then maybe a fixed power scope would be a good option for you. You can get a nicer piece of glass if its fixed power for less money (Weaver make some good ones i am told). I went with a variable power scope as i would like to take my rifle hunting at some point. So thats something to keep in mind as well.

    Hope that helps a bit.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, unless im much mistaken the 1 in the 1x12x40 example you gave is the lower end of the variable magnification (i.e. it goes from 1 to 12x magnification). Although its usually written 1-12x40.
     
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    The Remington 700 is the only one out of those three that I have some experience with and I would recommend them. Archer's setup with a McMillan stock sounds great to me, add a custom barrel and you could have a very competitive rifle. A buddy of mine has a Rem 700 XCR Tactical Long Range .308 and it is awesome. I don't have as much experience with them but I also understand Savage rifles are known for having great accuracy potential too.

    As far as optics, do not buy the cheapest you can. I've shot with the most expensive (March, Nightforce) and they are super awesome but not necessary either. I personally love Leupolds (see above) and I'm not the only one. Archer's description of the scope numbers is correct- it designates the low and high end of the magnification range and the objective lense diameter. The larger the objective lense, the more light the scope can gather. A big 30mm main tube helps too.

    If you will do all of your shooting at one distance, a fixed power scope could be best. There are advantages to them like weight and simplicity (less parts to break). Otherwise a variable power scope may help if you're shooting a variety of distances, like 100-300 or 600-1000 yards/meters. The power you need and reticle type depends on the range and target you'll be shooting at. The smaller the target and longer the range, the more power you'll want. Just for example, let's say you could go with a 4.5-14x50 scope for shorter distances and 6.5-20x50 or 8.5-25x50 for longer distances. I compete at only 50 yards but because the target is a dot measuring .03" diameter, a 40X fixed power scope with a fine crosshair is very effective. Your personal preference may vary.
     
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    Thanks for the help. I should of done more reading before I asked the question on the scopes, but I didn't know much and there was just so much out there it got confusing.
     
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    Here's a smoking deal on some offset irons. Ordered a set his week and they're way less goofy than I anticipated. They'll fit the bill for ny hog gun that could incidentally run three gun with no problems.

    http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B006X9DLQM

    Full disclosure, they are knockoffs of some very expensive BUIS.