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Guns and Ammo Thread

Discussion in 'Permanent Threads' started by ILikePie, Oct 20, 2009.

  1. slippingaway

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    Well, yeah, but depending on how you approach it, you can also look at it more as switching a trigger group (which is serial numbered, so considered the "gun") into different gun assemblies. The AR uppers that allow you to change calibers have different barrels, magazines, and bolts, so it's not really what the original poster was asking for, since it can still only fire one cartridge safely.

    Another point I didn't bring up before is headspacing. Headspacing is the way that rounds are properly positioned in the chamber lengthwise, and it's either done by having a rim larger than the cartridge that rests against the rear of the chamber, like on a revolver; a chamber cut so that the lip of the case around the bullet rests on a ridge in the chamber, like most semi-autos, or a shoulder on the cartridge that rests against the tapered shoulder in the chamber, like .223 or .30-06 rifle ammo. A chamber designed for 9x19 cartridges will allow .380acp cartridges to travel too far into the chamber before the case mouth hits the rim, so the firing pin probably won't hit the primer. 9x18Makarov ammo is larger in diameter than the other two, so a chamber cut large enough to fit it would probably mean 9x19 or .380 cartridge case mouths would travel right past the ridge and into the barrel.
     
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    I should really shut the fuck up when I've been drinking (during the day no less) as my last two posts in this thread made absolutely no sense.

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    I got a new glock 17, but don't like the crap stock sights. I was debating on throwing some tritium sights on there, however I want more info on some "triangular" shaped ones I saw a while back but don't recall the name of them. Anyone use these? Reviews?
     
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    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.suresight.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.suresight.com/</a>
     
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    I just bought a Henry .22lr, and its awesome. I'm looking for a scope to put on it before I go out west for my spring break in the NV desert on a week long rabbit shooting beer drinking bender. Any suggestions? Price is an issue.
     
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    It's a Henry... <a class="postlink" href="http://www.marblearms.com/improvedPeepTang.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.marblearms.com/improvedPeepTang.html</a>

    If you really need to scope it, be badass and go old-school. <a class="postlink" href="http://www.leatherwoodoptics.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=37&Itemid=56" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.leatherwoodoptics.com/index. ... &Itemid=56</a>

    Seriously, a simple 4x would work. You don't need anything complicated for that rifle. What exactly is your price range? There's lots of options.
     
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    Its not that I "need" to scope it. I just would like to have the option when I want too. I'd like to spend no more that $150.
     
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    It depends on what Henry model it is. Anything but a Golden Boy has a dovetail on the top of the receiver that will take scope rings made for 3/8" bases. This means you can save a little by buying rings made for those and skipping bases. The Golden Boy is more complicated because you would need to buy a cantilever mount that goes onto the barrel.

    I would simply go with Burris steel rimfire rings (medium, gloss black) or BKL 257 rings, and a simple 4x fixed power scope from a reputable brand (Burris, Bushnell, Weaver, Swift, etc). You can easily get both for under $150. Check out SWFA.com or Opticsplanet.com for good deals and free shipping.

    I wasn't entirely kidding when I suggested improving the open sights last night. A Marbles Improved tang sight and Lyman globe front sight would be about $150 together and would be a perfect fit for the lever action rifle. You'd be surprised at how well you can shoot with them too- they enable you to shoot with extreme precision. It's one thing to whack a rabbit with a nice scope cranked up to 24x and a mil-dot reticle (and drop the bullet right into it's head), but there's something very satisfying about hunting with an old school rifle and matching old school sights.

    Think about it this way... would you put 20" polished rims on a Model T?
     
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    Kato is far more knowledgeable about rifles than I, but you also may want to cruise gunbroker for an older fixed powered scope. Weaver and Redfield made a bunch of nice scopes years ago that aren't prohibitively expensive and would fit your rifle nicely.
     
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    Used scopes can work well but if you take this route, be sure to negotiate a return policy of sorts if the scope turns out to be crap. If you already have a low budget, the last thing you want is to burn money on a scope.

    The only brand that I will buy used without hesitation is Leupold because those scopes have an unconditional, transferable lifetime warranty. You could buy a used one at a garage sale, run it over with a car, send it in, and they'll send a new one back.
     
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    If anyone's looking for a few good ideas for concealed weapons, THIS might help.
     
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    Weatherby SA-08 Synthetic...your thoughts?

    I was going through a gun magazine (don't remember which), and saw an ad for the SA-08. What surprised me was the price. $450 (Bud's has them for $424 shipped) for an autoloader is dirt cheap and Weatherby is known for their quality rifles, so I doubt that their shotguns are anything to scoff at. But I don't know anything about them aside from what's on the spec sheet.

    Anyone have any experience with these? It would be a great way for me to get an autoloader for ducks and geese without having to spend a grand on a new gun or search for a quality used one.
     
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    IMHO, Weatherbys are a step up from a Mossberg, but not as good as a Remington for autoloaders. But then again, I never liked Mossbergs, always had issues with them. I've only shot a Weatherby a couple times, and not the synthetic stock models, but seemed to be solid guns.

    FYI, I'm not a pro hunter, I used to hunt some, but shot competition skeet & sporting clays for three years until my gun club closed. :(

    For that price, I think it's a good deal.
     
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    [quote="effinshenanigans]Post[/quote]

    Weatherby makes a good quality firearm, but this is a price-point shotgun and in my experience, price point shotguns are very hit or miss, even within the same make and model. They're either the best deal in the world or nothing but a headache. There is one shining exception to this generalization.

    1- Beretta 390-3901 series. These are the backbone of Beretta autoloaders and they are all Beretta. Most of these guns are made in Accokeek instead of Italy. From my experience, this does not mean that the product is sub par. This is a great deal.

    The trick to buying an autoloader based on price is to not get hung up on bells and whistles. Don't look for a gun that claims to shoot everything fro 7/8 oz. light target loads all the way to 1 3/4 oz. turkey loads. Camo adds $80-$100. Magical recoil reducing features are expensive as are crappy glow stick beads (which, fundamentally, you do NOT need). All of those features cost money, and that money has to come from somewhere. Focus your money on a gun that shoots 2 3/4"-3" cartridges with good internals and synthetic furniture.
     
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    I'm quickly learning that fitting and shaping ebony fore-end tips is not an easy task. It's a good thing I'm just practicing with cheap 10/22 stocks.
     
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    Any feedback on the Remington 870 Express? I'm probably picking one up tomorrow, along with a pistol grip.
     
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    One of the best, if not the best, shotguns ever made.
     
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    I bought a used 870 Wingmaster LC (light contour barrel) a few years ago and I think the name is misleading. I've used it to take everything from rabbits to pheasants to deer to turkey to geese. It hasn't failed me once. Get the point?

    I will ask though, whats the pistol grip for?
     
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    Home defense. When I shoot skeet or hunt, I'll switch back to the stock.

    EDIT: We've got one long, narrow hallway that runs nearly the length of the house, and I'm afraid I won't have much room to maneuver in it with the stock.
     
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    Then get one with a shorter barrel. I can't say I've ever practiced shooting for home defense, but I would bet you'll be a better shot if you shoot with the same stock that you hunt with. There won't be any noticeable difference in performance between a 28" and 18" barrel if you're shooting buckshot across a room, except the shotgun will be much easier to handle.

    That and shooting buckshot with a pistol grip would be a bitch and a half. Your wrist would not appreciate it.
     
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    I know I'm one of the few people that likes taking up gun projects, but if anyone has a 10/22 with a bull barrel and wants a great sporter stock, pick up one of these:

    <a class="postlink" href="http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=294450&filter=294450&catid=0" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;">http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Det ... 50&catid=0</a>

    For $40 you'll get a walnut (yes, real black walnut) stock with a light satin finish and a much better design than the carbine stock (fore-end is thicker and longer and the butt is 1" longer and the toe drops down more too). I ordered three this past week and all had finished 1/2" butt pads on them. They're good enough that I bought three more today, however I intend on refinishing them. It'll cost me only $30 each to add an ebony tip, steel grip cap, and do a pillar/glass bedding job.

    Because they're factory seconds, they will have some slight flaws, but nothing major. Out of the three I received yesterday, one was marked as having wood that interfered with the safety, one had a barrel channel that made contact with the barrel, and the third had a crack but it had been pinned and repaired. Nothing that can't be fixed by a few minutes with a fine file and some sandpaper.

    I don't like buying stocks without seeing them first, but you can't go wrong with one of these.