Yeah but think about all the nookie you get! Spoiler because the band's name means...never mind, you guys get it
That says more about your friend than it does about the fraternity. Sure it's fucked up to do it, but to willingly bend over and take it is something else entirely.
This. People talk all kinds of shit about frats, but it's not like they hold a gun to your head and force you to join. One of the best women I've ever met quit her sorority before her senior year because she got tired of the bullshit.
If that veil were thinner than a micro-sheer condom. And though I agree with Noland, they didn't really get his permission. Fraternity hazing is a Catch 22. You can either run through a quad with a shot glass of your own load while the brothers scream "Fucking FAGGOT!!!!" In your ear, quit and be "that guy" to everyone, or rat them out in which the entire house will collectively deny the act which will result in the entire campus Bro Patrol making you a marked man. It's lose-lose.
I know almost nothing about sorority hazing though. Is it as bad? I hear they usually just use insecure humiliation, far removed what those "manly men" do at Beta.
My girlfriend was in a sorority at Nebraska and said her "initiation" was well overhyped. Sounds like more humilation stuff than "DON'T BE A PUSSY BRAH." On the flip side, another buddy there is now the house dad at a fraternity that lost their charter a couple years ago over some initiation hazing that was bad enough
Your concept of losing and mine seem to be quite different. The device has yet to be invented that could measure my indifference concerning the opinions of men who were going to rape me with a tennis racket.
Maybe her sorority sister threatened to cunt punt her. From my experience, which is admittedly limited to a certain genre of movies, sorority initiation usually involves lots of genital licking and penetration.
Again, I agree. It ain't me, bro. Frat asshats will always say hazing is about testing commitment. When what you really have is high school bullies refusing to hang their gloves. It's sick, stupid and childish. If you need me I'll be in the Rape Vault.
Color me shocked that frats are the latest in a laundry list of things this board couldn't wait pile on and categorically deride. And no, I wasn't a frat bro who is outraged people are hating on my culture. I went to a school with a heavy greek culture, and don't get me wrong, I hated those motherfuckers at times for a variety of reasons. But to assume all frat dudes are "buying friends" or raping pledges with tennis rackets is a sampling bias. I have good friends I respect who were in frats and loved it and for a few, its had profound professional benefits, to say nothing for their social benefits. Sure some are fratty shitheads or douchebags or friendless spoiled rich kids, but to act superior or self-righteous cause you didn't make that choice and thus mock everyone who did is just being an asshole. That being said, hazing is fucked up. Most stories are overblown and the majority of frats aren't sanctioning circle jerks or bro rape. Most of the stories I've heard have basically been involving lots of drinking, some sleep deprivation, and continued aggravation. Except for the frat that had mini-fight clubs with pledges. But they also were kicked off multiple times in the 5 years I was in college. Carry on with your frat bashing.
I learned all I needed to know when I had a Bro go off on me in college for calling his house a "frat", cause you wouldn't call your country a cunt would you? WOULD YOU? YOU HEARD ME BITCH! Pass.
Most of the hazing around here was bench guarding or making pledges wear silly things to class, like gimp masks or the like. The tennis racket thing is by far the worst I heard around here, and garbage can Bukkake was slated as more of a punishment for a mouthy pledge.
Sometimes I can't tell if the majority of board is a group of hipsters, a group of rednecks, a group of rejected nerds who never were popular in high school, or what. Fraternities and sororities are just like everything else in the world. Some of them suck, some of them don't. What's worse is reading some of the stories, a lot of you guys have participated in frat like activities without being in a frat, I don't know if that makes it better or not. The shit you guys pile up on is hilarious, then toss out these random anecdotes that everyone is like "OH RIGHT THAT MUST APPLY TO EVERYONE." Its just funny the same reoccurring patterns of this board. And nope, I wasn't in a fraternity. I remember the day I made the decision to not even look at one. I was walking down to class, and I was looking at this one kid in front of me carrying a few books. Then two guys come out of nowhere, shove him slightly, but since he was startled dropped everything. They shouted at him "WHAT IS THE GREEK ALPHABET! TELL US RIGHT NOW!" I would have just instinctively turned around and swung on a guy that did that, and not have turned out well. So I just decided to not join. But I sure don't hate on them. I wish I went to an HSBC in Atlanta so I could stomp the yard sometimes...
Well damn now I wish I hadn't joined a frat in college because it clearly means all I wanted to do was have sex with all the other guys in my house. And shit could have saved all that money I spent buying my friends, which is essentially just a big pool of money that is spent on alcohol, bought in bulk so getting it cheaper than the rest of you. Also known as you guys sound like a bunch of idiots on your high horses.
Yeah, I used to hate the idea of "paying for friends" but my older brother did the whole frat thing and loved it. I didn't, though Im repped on here constantly claiming I was, but he really cherished the experience. Can't really hate if he got a rewarding experience out of doing it. Some of the benefits are entirely ignored when these frat brah brah conversations come up. I have had fun experiences going to frat parties, Ive had the bad ones where the dude brahs were way over the top. Same thing happens in any situation when you have a bunch of dudes together for some sort of social function (think MMA dudes, gym rats, fantasy leagues, etc).