So, my fife's niece and her husband recently moved to Dallas. They are supposed to come to our house for Thanksgiving this year. Is there a polite way to dis-invite them, or should we just be in Hawaii for an emergency of some sort when they show up?
Just when it was looking like the US had contained the Ebola brought in by Duncan, a NYC doctor brings it in again. Couple of articles say he went bowling, out to dinner and rode the subway. I think NYC is one place you certainly don't want this getting out of control. Let's see how it goes this time. http://www.cnn.com/2014/10/23/health/new-york-possible-ebola-case/index.html
"Well I'm no doctor" but unless he exchanged fluids with any of the people in any of those places, we're still far off from an ebola apocalypse.
It does give us all a second chance to make a tidy little profit in the stock market. Lakeland Industries, makers of PPE. Who's investing?
I've got several spare cases of Tyvek suits, poly coated and non poly coated, just waiting for a buyer. Do I hear an offer? And this: http://www.theonion.com/articles/nyc-officials-assure-public-most-puddles-of-bodily,37279/
This must not have been run past the tourism board. Reason #507 why the last time I went to NYC, is the last time I am going to NYC.
I really can't tell by your post if you realize the Onion is a fake newspaper and that is a fake story.
Quarantined nurse to CNN: 'My basic human rights' are being violated I don't feel her pain. Traveling to Africa to help out was her choice. While that's noble, she knew the risks and should've understood the possibility of quarantine upon return to the US. How about the rights of those in her community who don't deserve potential exposure to an exotic virus. All that said, at list give the woman a TV and some magazines.
It's a case of those before her fucking things up for those that followed. Too many professionals that knew better didn't follow proper protocols that were to be self-imposed, and that forced the hand of those in power in a few densely populated areas that are afraid. Sure, some of it might be reactionary, but I'm OK with that in this case. It's a reasonable precaution to take, when one assumes the person won't do as they were trained. I'm also thinking that this is the first time an Ebola quarantine has happened under this new process, so there's going to be a lot of "oh shit, we never thought of that" while they work out the details. I'm sure she'll get books, XBox, TV, whatever, within the next day or three. But it is funny how she's saying "I feel fine" as an excuse... she should know about the incubation periods, etc., and realize that in 5 days she could be shitting her internal organs out of her ass. Sounds to me like she is EXACTLY the type of person who should be quarantined, because she seems to lack the basic understanding of what quarantine is for or how it works. I feel for her, but she just has to accept that this is part of the price of helping those in need... you can't just cherry pick the good parts.
Quarantines are really something people should employ more of within reason. We obviously don't want to get to the point where we are quarantining immigrants, but if there's a local outbreak of something contagious I see nothing wrong with it. Or in the case of ebola, something so terrible caution is better than thinking people will do what they should.
I haven't paid very much attention to this story. The media has been calling it an epidemic, but in the west it has not approached anything near epidemic levels, nor is it a threat to turn into an imminent epidemic like the hacks on cnn/fox/wherever keep trying to claim to drum up ratings. This shit comes up every two years and the panic and outrage towards medical staffs that ensues every time is turning into a running joke. But yes, the people coming from infected areas who not only were around the disease, but in continuous and direct contact with those infected should absolutely be quarantined. If you can't handle precautions on your return you shouldn't have gone there in the first place. I can sympathize with how bored she must be, but that's about the extent of her predicament. She's going to be in there for 2-3 weeks at most reading and twiddling her thumbs and then she can go back to her normal life. Being careful so she doesn't infect anyone else isn't a violation of her 'basic rights' by a long shot.
Why do people keep repeating the bullshit lines of "If you can't handle precautions on your return you shouldn't have gone there in the first place" or "she just has to accept that this is part of the price of helping those in need"? This isn't a case of her being educated ahead of time that if she went to Sierra Leone she'd be placed in quarantine when she returned. This is something that just sprang into existence because of Christie's (and others') executive order - she went over there with the understanding of a certain set of guidelines and had the rules changed on her as she was coming back because of fear. I'd be fighting too if someone changed the rules on me like that. More to the point, I don't want to live in a society where people can be imprisoned without any sort of due process - and especially when it's out of fear. If that makes my world more dangerous, so be it.
The issue comes down to safeguarding the population. There are protocols put in place to protect the population from being exposed to Ebola by humanitarians who are on those front lines. In a reasonable world, the people on those front lines would follow those protocols and everybody would be happy. The problem comes down to people who don't voluntarily follow those protocols upon their return. It has been shown that a few people before have basically said, "fuck it, this doesn't apply to me". http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article ... urant.html Like I said earlier, the nurse in question probably did nothing wrong, but those before her did. They broke the expected self-imposed quarantine, they travelled, they "carelessly" exposed themselves to the general public. They are being unreasonable in doing so, and have shown that treating people like grown ups and expecting them to do the right thing doesn't work, at least in a few cases. So what IS the next logical step? I agree, in a place as densely populated as NYC, that forced quarantine is the next step. Again, not her fault, and I feel for her, but she can thank those that came before her and fucked it up for her.
Apparently that doctor that was all over the place in NY lied to police originally and told them he hadn't gone anywhere. It wasn't until the cops checked his credit card receipts and saw he was all over the place that he confessed. I mean, he's a doctor that was treating Ebola patients and even he didnt follow any kind of self-quarantine. Because he felt fine. I don't get it. Out of all the people out there, you'd think a doctor would know better. And then to lie.
Exactly. Everyone who does that should have the book thrown at them... assuming they don't die, and there are people left to do it.
Shes not imprisoned, shes quarantined to prevent the spread of an infectious disease. She can suck it up for two weeks. This risk of an ebola outbreak is not an acceptable trade for a misguided stand on principle. No one, especially a state governor, wants to be the one responsible for causing the spread of a disease because of a lackadaisical approach to dealing with it.