Muppets and Darlton. Cute for the novelty of seeing muppets with them. But there's a great moment in there that has to do with Arrested Development.
Holy shit I am so excited for tonight's episode, I really have no idea what to expect. My only worry is that we are going to have another crazy Oklahoma storm roll through right about the time lost is coming on. If that happens I'm gonna flip the fuck out.
Awww, come on man...you know we're just kidding about that dinky little boomer! (Besides, if I was really in a nitpicking mood, I would just mention again how Penny's yacht would have to have been travelling 40+ knots or something to drop off the Oceanic Six at that beach after she fished them out of the drink in the about of time the show says it took.)
20 minutes in and this episode is blowing my mind. These are my first (very intoxicated) thoughts on the show as it progresses.
There's definitely something allegorical to the Bible going on here, and it's not just the outfits.... Somebody better explain all this stuff...
So... does that mean that the Smoke Monster isn't actually Jacob's brother? Or... Jacob's brother became the smoke monster? I don't know, I'm going to have to believe that this is going to make more sense in context with the next 3.5 hours, because I have no fucking clue what that meant. Not showing anything between when Jacob was a teenager and when he was an adult is sort of Biblical, right?
I loved the episode, but I can't get over the fact that they did not tell us MIB's name. It's getting annoying.
Did the light go out under the waterfall when the smoke flew out? The way I understood it, Jacob's brother left his body behind, after going under the waterfall.
It continues to be the best show on television and I truly believe that one's interpretation of LOST is an analytic disposition of one's view on humanity, faith, and things we can't understand. edit: BLACK
So... do we now think that the Smoke Monster IS the light? Or that the light is present within the Smoke Monster? It has the entity of the light, but the consciousness of Jacob's brother. So... the reason the Smoke Monster can't be allowed to leave the Island is that the light would go out. The light going out would cause all humanity to cease existing. DOES Smokey know that this would happen? It seems not. He's single mindedly focused on leaving the Island, and perhaps isn't able to grasp the consequences of his actions. So, Somehow Jacob, the guardian of the island, was keeping the light on, and keeping his brother on the island. Much as his Mother had guarded the light, he must now guard it too, only instead of being a harmless light held inside the island, it's now a... malevolent plume of black smoke? I kind of assumed if I typed stream of consciousness that this would start to make sense. I'm missing something, and I believe it's not something we're going to learn until one of the Candidates takes over. Perhaps until Dead Jacob gives Hurley that same incantation that Jacob's mother gave him? OR maybe that's Hurley's reason for having to be there, he's going to give Jack that incantation through Jacob. OR we can look at them in parallel, Sawyer the blond vs Jack the brown, where JACK ends up being the bad guy and SAWYER is the good guy. Though that makes less sense than the opposite, because SAWYER and MiB were determined to leave the island, and JACOB and JACK wanted to stay.
They went to obnoxious lengths not to reveal his name, it's definitely irritating. There better be a payoff for this annoyance. This episode had a Matrix: Reloded feel to it, they were trying to fill in gaps of mythology and mysticism onto a tremendous first act (in this case being the rest of LOST). What language was the preggo speaking? Did she really speak english or did BigMomma "touch" her or something and make her learn.
It was Latin, wasn't it? The Others have been known to use that language. Between that, her name (Claudia) and their dress I'm guessing they were Romans....possibly responsible for the statue as well, as there was obviously considerable contact between the roman and Egyptian civilizations.
Well it's obvious that people of every "era" have come over. I think this civilization predates the Egyptians, that's why I was considering the language they spoke at first. I figured it was tribal iron-age people - the huts that we were shown briefly and the hunters support my theory. The random language and use of "english" does not. Three episodes left and they give us something that would've been great last season. Infuriating. I can't wait till LOST is done and dusted so I could move on to well written shows. Don't get me wrong, LOST is totally captivating but the dialogue and exposition is laughably low-brow. edit: Doc Jensen says it's Northern Highland Swedish. Now onto the Wiki...
That's my take on it, though there must be some remnants of the light left down there for the donkey wheel to work with. Shit, who ended up finishing the donkey wheel project? I'd forgotten how much hotter Evangeline Lily used to be.
Was I the only one that thought the guy that pulled the spear out of the boar looked like Kelvin Inman?
I did love that scene at the end, it felt like it was supposed to link the beginning with the end. And I think that the smoke monster came out as MiB's essence/conciousness/whatever mixed with the light of the island. I do like the theory that that light is now a mobile being, aka smokey, and that it is still Jacob's job to protect it and not let it leave the island. What do you think that in the end, whoever ends up killing smokey (if thats how it even happens), he ends up thanking them the way his mother thanked him after he killed her. Can't wait to see how the next 3.5 hours turn out. EDIT: And shit...after that hour I completely forgot about sideways world. How the hell is that going to work into what we just saw?
Questions posed by Ack What I came up with (cribbed one from Sherwood) 1. When Brother floated in to the cave, the light went out. I’m taking that to mean the light is present within the Smoke Monster. It has the entity of the light, but the consciousness of Jacob’s brother. So… the reason the Smoke Monster can’t be allowed to leave the Island is that the light would go out. The light going out would cause all humanity to cease existing. 2. We don’t know. 3. Tricksy show runners, playing with our emotions… 4. His villager friends all probably called him Brother in Latin (Frater), which, since they spoke Northern Highlands Swedish, maby sounded like a name. I dunno, I’m spitballin here. 5. It does seem to have ripped Frater’s soul right outta his body, while not killing him. Sounds pretty shitty to me. 6. What you said. 7. Either she was smokey-like as well, or she had ranged weapons we didn’t see any evidence of. Maybe she could kick ass like Trinity. 8. 1947. Does it matter? I want to know how he started drawing people in. 9. He was special in the way mothers think their favorite children are special. Jacob, on the other hand, seemed a little autism special. 11. Sets a precedent, doesn’t it? 12. Seemed more like, “Ok, so you don’t have to read the rest of the episode, we’ll take the other language thing as a given, now. That way Alison Janney doesn’t have to speak American accented Latin the rest of the time.” 13. Smokey always seemed to be more like Mom than Jacob was. 16. Refer to my answer to number one. If the light is now inside Smokey, maybe John did see it.
Any ideas on who took on the image of Smokey and Jacob's mother when the teenaged version of the two were playing the board game thing on the beach?